It is understandable that Kirin 985 chip was spit out, because in product testing, Kirin 985 chip did not improve much than 820 in Ann Bunny's running score, and the running score was only 386,045, which was about 10,000 higher than 820. The CPU architecture is similar to that of Kirin 820, and it is inevitable that it will be made a fuss. However, the biggest difference of Kirin 985 is the improvement on GPU. Kirin 985 adopts 7nm technology. It has a eight nuclear CPU and a brand-new Mail-G77 GPU, and uses a dual-core NPU of the same model as Kirin 990 with higher frequency. It also integrates Huawei's 5G chip, which is not as simple as changing its name.
Xiaomi has been voicing his marketing methods for a long time. In order to get sales and hot spots, he always compares Huawei and gains "pleasure" by belittling his friends. Before P40 was released, he was also scolded by them, and even many netizens shouted the slogan "Get out of Weibo". To be honest, I used to be very optimistic about Xiaomi, but now it seems that their practice of "harming others and benefiting themselves" is really not a gentleman's move.
I don't care if people say so. If Lu said it, I would stand on Huawei's side and make a careful analysis. Data comes first, it is indisputable.
CPU single core: 2.58GHz is close to Kirin 980, and the score of single core is estimated to be around 3400;
CPU multi-core: Except for the large core whose 2.58GHz is lower than that of Snapdragon 855, all the other seven cores are similar, and the multi-core score is estimated to be around 1 1000. (Compared with the two 1.92GHz of Kirin 980, the running score of 985 should be higher);
GPU: This 985 GPU is similar to that of 820, but the number of cores is different (G57 for 6 cores and G77 for 8 cores and above). Therefore, according to the single-core frame number of 8, the frame number of GPU Manhattan 3. 1 of Kirin 985 should be about 64.
According to this logic, the ranking of CPU and GPU is the same, as follows:
Snapdragon 855 >; Kirin 985> Kirin 980> Kirin 820
Compared with 820 and 980 and 985, the performance of 985 is obviously improved, maybe not much, but it is definitely at a certain level. If this is not an upgrade, all chip factories should not produce new models, just wait for the A78 architecture.
In addition, the price of 2999 is not only the upgrade of the chip, but also the other performance comparisons between Glory 30S and Glory 30, and the difference can naturally be seen. Or come with red mi PK. I believe I dare not force it.
Xiaomi's "Wan Ciwang" and "Lu" are really admirable, and the little respect left by Xiaomi's mobile phone in my heart has disappeared without a trace. Personally, I am not a fan or a black brand. I sincerely hope that the industry is a healthy and serious competition, with long-term vision, consistent external and sincere cooperation.
Finally, I would like to ask General Manager Lu and General Manager Lei, how is your chip surging?
Lu can really be regarded as Huawei's most loyal "friendly army". Every time Huawei releases a new mobile phone, he will continue to warm up for Huawei. Before the release of the new glory machine, Mr. Lu alluded to the Glory 30 Series in his Weibo, and it really ushered in another slap in the face.
1. Lu alluded to chip renaming in Weibo.
In fact, before the screenshot above, Lu sent a very interesting Weibo, which read: "Ask a question: Is QL985 QL990lite or QL820+?"
I don't need to explain this to you. I just said that Kirin 985 is a kind of Kirin 990 or Kirin 820. After sending this message, Mr. Lu felt dissatisfied, so he sent another message, "I just communicated with MTK leaders and suggested that they change the name of Tianji 800 to Tianji 985, so that the mobile phone can be sold at the price of 2999." The content of two consecutive Weibo, just say it directly. Kirin 985 is Kirin 820. Change the name. However, Mr. Lu's repeated hints did not affect the public's enthusiasm for buying. In just one minute, the sales of this mobile phone reached 300 million, which is the best response to Mr. Lu.
Second, the difference between Kirin 985 and Kirin 820.
Although many people think that Kirin 985 adopts the structure of Kirin 820, the running scores of Ann Bunny are not much different, but if we compare them carefully, we will find that the gap between them is obvious.
Kirin 985 adopts 8-core G77, and its core performance is better than that of G76 of Kirin 990, but the number is reduced by half, so it has a certain gap with Kirin 990 in performance. Kirin 820 is equipped with a six-core G57 GPU, and its configuration is still much worse than that of Kirin 985. In terms of AI performance, the test results show that the AI performance of Kirin 985 even exceeds that of Kirin 990. Among Huawei processors, only Kirin 990.5g has better AI performance than Kirin 985. Of course, AI performance is not shown on Ann Bunny, which may be the most important reason for running almost the same score.
Xiaomi and Huawei are the two best marketing partners.
Now, Huawei and Xiaomi are the two most talked about mobile phone brands in China. Although from the outside world, Huawei and Xiaomi are in the same boat, basically every time a new mobile phone is released, it is an opportunity for black friends to support themselves, but this may not necessarily boost popularity.
For example, this time, Teacher Lu devalued Huawei chips in Weibo early and helped Huawei mobile phones to ensure the heat in time; After the release of Glory 30 series was a great success, people who ate melons came to Weibo, general manager of Lu, to leave messages and make faces, which basically kept the popularity of Glory 30 for a week. The next time Xiaomi sends a new mobile phone, Huawei's big brother comes to Black Xiaomi again, and the popularity of the two brands remains high once and for all.
However, from the current point of view, it is obvious that Lu Zong and Lei Zong have been beaten in the face relatively many times, which has also helped glory Huawei to gather a lot of popularity. But I hope Xiaomi can make persistent efforts on the mobile phone, soar in the new machine, and return all the blows and grievances suffered for so many years. Not a gentleman after all.
Wei Bing's words are actually quite sour. Typical words are sour grapes.
1 and glory 30 are better than Xiaomi 10 in one minute.
In my opinion, the number of times glory 30 breaks 100 million a minute is actually not much. According to this sales volume, more than 30 thousand units have been sold. Of course, although the sales volume is over 100 million, the figure of Glory 30 is better than Xiaomi 10. Although Xiaomi broke through 100 million yuan in 55 seconds, the starting price of Xiaomi 10 was 4,000 yuan, and the actual number sold was 25,000 or even less.
Therefore, Lu's statement that the chip is based on renaming is typical jealousy. It is obviously uncomfortable to see that the price of Glory 30 is lower than Xiaomi 10/000 yuan, and it has achieved almost the same sales volume in the same time, and the sales volume is better than Xiaomi 10. Finally, I can only cheer myself up!
2. Lu Weibing is jealous that Huawei has more chip slots.
The original Kirin chip has only three grades: high, medium and low, 9 series high-end, 8 series mid-end and old 7 series low-end, but only 9 and 8 series obviously cannot meet the more subdivided positioning. The file of 3000 yuan is actually quite embarrassing sometimes. Obviously, taking the high-end positioning chip 990 out of the model will bring some impact to the existing system. The Kirin 8 series model is difficult to hit this level, which is a bit out of reach.
The advent of Kirin 985 chip can solve this gap well, and the whole card slot layout is very complete. In the future, 990 will only be used for flagship high-end models, 985 series will be used for high-end cards, and the rest will be given to Kirin 820/8 10 series, which will have a greater impact on friends.
As an executive, Lu can certainly see this, but not many processors can be used here in Qualcomm, so it is impossible to fight back effectively. As a friend, he can only envy and hate. Without a weapon at hand, he can only take out a cynical weapon.
Views of Lscssh technical officials:
In fact, everyone in the industry, especially the mobile phone chip industry, knows very well whether the Kirin 985 chip is renamed and whether it can really shake the whole market. Qualcomm and MediaTek will definitely take action in the future, otherwise the situation will be very passive. Lu, who can only produce mobile phone products with other people's processors, is still very worried about this situation.
The first sale of glory 30 series is 300 million a minute. Mr. Lu said: Not as good as Xiaomi 10, the chip is renamed! Is it true or not?
First of all, glory 30 series broke 300 million a minute, not 1 100 million. Then I think the strength of Glory 30 series should not be underestimated. At that time, the first sale of Xiaomi 10 was 654.38+200 million yuan a minute, but it was only Xiaomi 10, not counting Xiaomi 10Pro, and it was only after Xiaomi 10Pro that sales began! In this way, the level of the two is almost the same. If Xiaomi 10Pro is added, the starting point of Xiaomi 10 series should be around 300 million. So I said that according to their starting situation, they were evenly matched. As for whether the chip is based on renaming, Lu said Kirin 985 on Glory 30, and then renamed Kirin 985, which means that Kirin 985 is a renamed version of Kirin 820. Why did manager Lu say that? Let's analyze it for everyone!
Kirin 985 should actually be said to be Kirin 820plus, but there is nothing wrong with Kirin 985. Because its design is as suitable for the combination of 1+3+4 as Kirin 820, that is, the combination of a very large core +3 large cores +4 small cores! Kirin 980 and Kirin 990 are a combination of 2+2+4, that is, two very large nuclei+two large nuclei+four small nuclei. It's just that Kirin 985 has increased the frequency of super-large cores and large cores compared with Kirin 820, and then the GPU has also been enhanced! But from another point of view, it integrates 5G, and the overall level is similar to that of Kirin 980, so in fact, I think there is nothing wrong with Kirin 985. After all, it is someone else's own processor, so it doesn't matter how you name it! As long as we consumers know what level this processor is, it is up to us to decide whether to buy it or not!
First of all, I think whether it is renamed or not, it is something that Huawei really developed itself. I think Mr. Lu is jealous because he can't eat grapes! As we all know, after Huawei's mid-range Kirin 8 10 came out last year, it made friends at the same price very unhappy. None of them will call. The mobile phone equipped with Kirin 8 10 is very popular. I believe Teacher Lu is also jealous! Then this year, Huawei continued to exert its efforts on mid-range processors, and launched Kirin 820 and Kirin 985 one after another. Huawei doesn't play the sea tactics, but also plays the core sea tactics. General Manager Lu can only stare blankly and do nothing. The best he can say is that other people's chips are just renamed. Manager Lu is really too difficult!
Having said that, you just want to know whether the Glory 30 equipped with Kirin 985 is worth buying.
I think the sales volume has explained everything, and Glory 30 is still worth buying. If you don't have high requirements for the game, you like to take photos, because the glory 30S equipped with Kirin 820 has been sold to 2699, and the performance of the glory 30 has improved compared with the 30S, and then the texture of taking photos and workmanship has also improved, and then the price is more than 300, which is still worth buying! But after all, this is my personal opinion, for reference only. What is the specific situation? Go to the physical store and experience it for yourself! I hope my answer can help you!
Huawei mobile phone is believed to be familiar to everyone, as a China enterprise. Huawei's Kirin chip has gradually entered the international stage in the past two years. Last year, Huawei released the Kirin 990 Soc chip. Because the integration of 5G chips reduced the power consumption of mobile phones, Huawei also occupied the market of 5G flagship mobile phones early. Recently, Huawei announced the brand-new Kirin 985 processor and released the first flagship mobile phone equipped with Kirin 985. Huawei glory 30 series products, this mobile phone held a new product launch conference on April 15, and released the sales data of this mobile phone today.
According to the official announcement of Huawei Glory, after the launch of the glory 30 series products on the whole platform, the sales volume exceeded 300 million yuan in just one minute. In terms of mobile phone sales, it is definitely another dark horse of Huawei's glory series products. This also surprised Lu, CEO of Xiaomi China, after Huawei Glory 30 held a press conference. Lu issued a related Weibo, saying that "it is suggested that MediaTek leaders rename Tianji 800 Tianji 985, so that the mobile phone can be sold at the price of 2999."
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Huawei Hisilicon Kirin processor
The low-end HiSilicon Kirin processors include Kirin 7 10 and 659 processors, and its competitors are Qualcomm Snapdragon 636 and 660.
The mid-range HiSilicon Kirin processors include Kirin 8 10, Qualcomm Snapdragon 7 10, 712,730, and the competitor of Kirin 820 5G is Qualcomm Snapdragon 765 5G.
The high-end HiSilicon Kirin processors have 990 5G and 990 processors, and their rivals are Qualcomm's 865 5G and 855 processors.
This is the status quo before the release of the HiSilicon Kirin 985 processor. At this time, MediaTek released a processor secret 1000 with vague positioning, which can be said to be high-end or high-end. You can't beat HiSilicon Kirin's high-end processor and Qualcomm Snapdragon's high-end processor, but you can't beat HiSilicon Kirin's mid-range processor and Qualcomm Snapdragon's mid-range processor. This is obviously to grab Huawei's market share.
Therefore, Huawei's countermeasure is to produce such a high-end HiSilicon Kirin 985 5G processor. Why is it used in Glory 30? Because oppo has produced an oppo reno3 mobile phone equipped with MediaTek Tianji 1000 processor, and Glory 30 is equipped with 985 processor, which is the target of this kind of mobile phone. Oppo reno series and Huawei glory series mainly take photos, and the gameplay is slightly weak. Otherwise, the glory V series still has room for survival.
In short, your circle is too chaotic, and it is difficult to tell the truth from the truth.
Please correct me if I make a mistake. Thank you. I wish you a happy life here.
After the glory 30 series conference, Lu Fawen, vice president of Xiaomi, said: "I just communicated with the leaders and suggested that they rename Tianji 800 Tianji 985, so that the mobile phone can be sold at the price of 2999." Lu means that Kirin 985 processor is based on Kirin 820, but it is more expensive to sell. Is Kirin 985 processor really a renamed version of Kirin 820 processor?
First, let's take a look at the positioning of these two processors. Kirin 820 processor is positioned in the mid-range mobile phone processor, that is, the mobile phone with the price of 1500-2500, and Kirin 985 processor is positioned in the high-end mobile phone processor, that is, the mobile phone with the price of 2500-3000. From the product positioning, we can see some differences between the two processors, and then look at the specific parameters of the two processors.
Kirin 820 processor adopts TSMC 7nm process, integrates Kirin 990 5G flagship 5G baseband module, and supports 2G/3G/4G/5G network. Kirin 820 processor integrates eight CPU cores, namely, the large core (main frequency 2.36GHz), three middle cores (main frequency 2.22GHz) and four small cores (main frequency 1.84GHz) of Magic A76 architecture, and the CPU performance is improved by 34% on the basis of Kirin 8 10. In terms of GPU, Kirin 820 processor adopts Mail-G57 6 core.
Kirin 985 processor also adopts TSMC's 7nm process and has the same 5G capability as Kirin 990 5G processor. Kirin 985 processor integrates eight CPU cores, namely, the large core of Magic Variable A76 architecture (main frequency 2.58GHz), three middle cores of Magic Variable A76 architecture (main frequency 2.4GHz) and four small cores of A55 architecture (main frequency 1.84GHz). In terms of GPU, Kirin 985 processor adopts Mail-G77 8 core.
Difference: Kirin 820 processor and Kirin 985 processor seem to be the same in many parameters, but they are actually different. The CPU frequency and GPU architecture of these two processors are different, Kirin 985 is stronger, and the performance of Kirin 985 processor is between Kirin 820 and Kirin 990 5G processor.
Why can you see manager Lu's helplessness from this incident? Xiaomi doesn't have his own processor, and always uses someone else's processor, so he has no initiative, and the initiative is in the hands of others. Huawei has its own processor, so it can name the processor how it wants.
We can also see the benefits of self-research from this incident. The initiative is in our own hands. We can release the processor at any time, and we can name the processor at will.
In Mr. Lu's view, glory 30 series mobile phones will not have good sales, but this is not the case. The sales volume of glory 30 series online platform exceeded 300 million yuan within one minute after it was launched. As Xiaomi's flagship mobile phone Xiaomi series, the sales volume in one minute only exceeded 200 million yuan, which is obviously not bad.
Huawei's products this year are still very powerful. Huawei currently has the largest number of 5G processors, and each processor has integrated 5G baseband, and there is no castration on 5G, just like the flagship processor 990 5G. Among the midrange processors, the performance of Kirin 820 processor is still invincible. I believe that after the release of Glory 10X, the real strength of Kirin 820 processor will be displayed.
It should be noted that glory 30 sold for one minute actually broke 300 million, not 1 100 million. Otherwise, Weibo of Lu wouldn't send it like this, because Xiaomi 10 series broke 200 million one minute before it was released.
According to the official data of Glory, after the launch of Glory 30 series on the whole platform, the sales volume exceeded 300 million in just one minute, more than Xiaomi 10 series 1 000 million.
It can be seen that the glory 30 series will continue to dominate the list, which makes Lu feel very uncomfortable. Later, he published an article in which Weibo said, "It is suggested that the leaders of MediaTek change the name of Tianji 800 to Tianji 985, so that the mobile phone can also be sold at the price of 2999", and at the same time, he made a comparison between Ann Bunny and Kirin 985.
The implication is that Huawei just changed the name of the processor of the mobile phone. Even if it is upgraded, its performance has not improved much. So "The chip was renamed?" Spread like wildfire.
But in fact, the new Kirin 985 processor integrates the 5G chip module as the Kirin 990 Soc. Although the performance improvement is not obvious, this chip was released to fill the gap that Kirin does not have a mid-range 5G integrated processor.
In Lu's mouth, it becomes "chip renamed?" In that case. Ann Bunny, everyone knows who is behind the boss, and it is inevitable that some people will be dissatisfied with the result of the referee's play.
However, Huawei has always been a powerful player, and once again made a face at Lu's "ridicule" with its own sales. Where there is Huawei, there is Lu's performance, but so far, almost every time it ends in self-defeating, which makes people feel that he is actually Huawei's "friendly army", but his spirit of repeated defeats is really admirable.
This is the usual trick. On the one hand, he mocked Huawei's enthusiasm for glory, on the other hand, he belittled Huawei and raised himself.
First of all, it must refer to Kirin 985 and Kirin 820 processors. I think Lu's words can be translated into "Glory 30 Standard Edition uses Kirin 820, don't buy it". Of course, this is not the case. Kirin 985 is certainly not Kirin 820, but it is better than Kirin 820.
So why do you say that? Because the impact of Glory 30 on Redmi K30Pro is too great, and the price of both is the same. But obviously, everyone prefers glory 30. Redmi K30Pro is a product used by Xiaomi to run points. If the sales volume of this product does not go up, Xiaomi will be very uncomfortable. So measures must be taken to make people buy Redmi instead of glory.
For consumers, what chips manufacturers launch has nothing to do with themselves, and ultimately depends on their demand for buying mobile phones. Today, Huawei used to cover a lot of prices, so it launched a variety of chips, which made Xiaomi under great pressure, but it was also reasonable.
If Xiaomi also has the strength to launch a variety of chips a year, then it won't say so. He would probably say "my own pork is delicious" and "I can keep as many pigs as I want" and so on.
Therefore, Lu's remarks must not be taken seriously. Just remember that he is not the real Lu, he is just a marketing number, and everything is for the benefit of Xiaomi.