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New Qin Empire Shang Yang’s battle lines with Meng Ke (high score)

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Director: This great debate is the grand ceremony for Jixia to welcome Master Meng into the Qi Dynasty.

There is no end to learning, and there are no noble or humble scholars. Everyone can challenge Master Meng to argue. < /p>

Everyone: Master Meng, please give a lecture.

Director: Master Meng, please!

Meng Ke: Everyone, Confucianism has been founded for more than a hundred years, and its general propositions are known to the world.

I reiterate them one by one. It seems unnecessary, so I would like to ask you to discuss the differences. Only when you argue and ask questions, and I answer them, can you get to the point.

Yang Zhu: I, Yang Zhu, dare to ask Master, what is precious and what is light among all things in the world?

Meng Ke: The people are the most valuable, the country is second, and the king is the least important.

Everyone: Long live the people!

Shen Buhai: I, Shen Buhai, dare to ask Master, what is the key to the turmoil and strife in the world?

Meng Ke: He did not learn Zhou etiquette, did not practice benevolent government, and took killing and conquest as a pleasure, which was the key point.

Shen Buhai: Do you really think that benevolent government, Zhou rites, and the well-field system are feasible?

Meng Ke: The state has a sage king and good generals, benevolent government is feasible, Zhou rites are feasible, and the well field system is even more feasible.

Shen Buhai: When countries rise and fall, Master hopes that the Holy King will restore his state, but in reality, people rule.

Meng Ke: It is at least better for a man to govern with virtue than to govern with power.

Shen Buhai: I would like to tell you, master, that the rule of law is the study of Legalism, not the study of power.

Meng Ke: Such Legalism is a learning in troubled times!

Wei Yang: What a mistake! Master Meng’s assertion is so absurd!

Meng Ke: Arguments should be well-founded, but groundless accusations are so shallow!

Wei Yang: Master is wrong, and there are three reasons for this.

All schools in the world have branches. The Confucius took it out of context and regarded the Shuzhi School as the overall picture of Legalism. This is one of them;

The three schools of Legalism have the same root, and they all regard the rule of law as their identity. Fundamentals, and each has its own focus in implementation.

The Master ignores the fundamentals of Legalism and attacks one point less than the rest;

The legalist school of law is to implement the law On the basis of the above, the emphasis is on purging officials and strengthening the investigation of officials, which is very different from inciting power and intrigue. The Master deliberately obliterated the fundamentals, and his judgment could not be more rash. This is the third reason.

Meng Ke was so angry that he slapped the table: Who are you and what school of Legalism are you?

Shen Dao: Hahaha~~ The scholars in the world listened! This person, Wei Yang, is a famous scholar of our Legalist school of law.

Meng Ke: I have never heard of the rule of law forming a family or a sect. Harsh government is just as fierce as a tiger, so why bother talking about it!

Wei Yang smiled calmly: It is insignificant for a master to first condemn someone when discussing their studies.

Wei Yang only told the Master that the governance of the world is not about empty talk but practice.

Whether it is the rule of law or the rule of men, whoever can integrate into the trend of great struggle and strengthen the country and enrich the people is the right way!

Otherwise, it will be empty talk that will derail the world and will surely be abandoned in the age of great strife.

Everyone: Wei Yang, Cai! ~~

Meng Ke: Human nature is inherently good and has its own laws. Isn’t it sad that the three schools of Mo Bing were destroyed

Wei Yang: Master’s argument has no basis for human nature.

Everyone: I would like to hear Wei Yang’s theory.

Speak to Wei Yang

Director: Jixia Academy’s words are exhaustive and everyone can comment on them

Meng Ke : I would like to hear what I have said about my evil nature

To serve as a warning to the world

Wei Yang: The nature of evil people only has laws because of their evil nature

Everyone in the world is born good. Profit leads to the struggle for wealth and land

Being born with greed leads to thieves, violence and killing

Being born with extravagant hopes leads to sensuality

The evil of human nature Law must be followed by rectification

Use the rule of law to prevent evil intentions

Use the rule of law to guide human nature

Only when human nature can be good and orderly

Mencius Empty talk about nature being inherently good

Attributing the merits of governing the world to the goodness of human nature

Attributing the sins of troubled times to the three families of Fa, Mo and Bing

It is nothing more than to reiterate benevolent governance

< p>The theory of human rule and restoration

Back to the Xia, Shang and Zhou dynasties

This is condoning evil deeds to deceive the naive

The real hypocrisy

End, in the film: The struggle of schools during the Warring States Period is a great spectacle in the history of Chinese civilization. It is also the way of survival and competition in the great era. It cultivated the best of the Chinese nation

Strong foundation of civilization.

Making that era an unfortunate peak in the history of human civilization.

Personal opinion:

Obviously: According to historical records. Mencius (372 BC - 289 BC) was a native of Zoucheng, Shandong. Han nationality. His name is Ke, his courtesy name is Ziyu, also his courtesy name is Ziche and Ziju.

Shang Yang (about 390 BC - 338 BC) was a native of Weiguo (now Huangliangzhuang Town, Anyang City, Henan Province) and Han nationality.

In fact, Shang Yang is twelve years older than Mencius. In the play, Shang Yang is a young talent, but Mencius is an old man. According to the calculation in the plot, Shang Yang started to reform around the age of thirty-three or four. For a four-year-old to listen to a lecture by a twenty-two-year-old master (in fact, Mencius did not come to Qi for the first time until he was forty-three years old). If you think about it carefully, it is a joke.

Actually, I don’t think it is impossible for Shang Yang to meet Mencius. It may have happened when Shang Yang guided the talented Mencius.

Even if Mencius went to Qi for the first time, Shang Yang went Listen, Shang Yang should have lived past fifty-five, but Wei Yang died at fifty-two.

But the polemical lines are okay.