Good afternoon, dear chairman, judges, and fellow students:

I am honored to discuss the issue of setbacks with you here. Our point of view is: setbacks are not conducive to success.

First of all, from a large perspective, setbacks will hinder the progress of the country, society, and even all mankind. Why is the whole world calling for peace now? Why does communism seek to build a world without poverty, suffering, and war? Why does China want to build a moderately prosperous society? It is because only in an environment of fairness, justice, integrity and friendship, full of vitality, stability and order, can all kinds of talents be better cultivated, so that social development and human progress can be achieved.

Secondly, setbacks can undermine people's self-confidence and hinder their thinking, so only a very small number of people can become successful in setbacks. Perhaps a setback will create a brave and fearless general, but it will destroy a million soldiers. When the only winner looked up to the sky and screamed, did you see the white bones at his feet? The Cultural Revolution was an unprecedented catastrophe for the Chinese nation. During this huge setback in China, knowledge became the source of evil. Scientists went to work and farm, while workers, farmers, and students took to the streets to stir up revolution, which caused a gap in the ranks of my country's scientific and technological talents. , the gap between technological level and some Western powers in Europe and the United States is more than half a century, and the national economy is on the verge of collapse. How many soldiers who were supposed to have a bright future died at the gunpoint of the enemy? How many talented young people have fallen victim to setbacks? Isn’t this bloody lesson enough?

Third, from a psychological point of view, setbacks can easily make people feel discouraged and depressed, making it difficult to regain self-confidence for a long time. Why do our families and society have to work hard to create a good learning and living environment for us? It is to make us succeed more smoothly and hold up the sun of tomorrow!

To sum up, we clearly believe that setbacks are not conducive to success!

Thank you everyone!

(2) Can everyone get up when they encounter setbacks? Of course not. For those who can get up, is the key to his success the mentality and method of getting up or the setback itself? Obviously the former. Therefore, logically, what makes people successful is the method of overcoming setbacks. This method is definitely not the setbacks themselves, so setbacks are not conducive to success. If setbacks are conducive to success, why should we overcome them? Wouldn't it be weird to overcome a "thing" that is conducive to success?

Frustration only provides it with an opportunity for improvement. In the face of the opportunity for improvement, some people are positive and others are negative. So how do you argue that because some people are negative and others are positive in the face of setbacks, setbacks are also conducive to success? So we see that the key to success is the mentality of facing setbacks. I would like to ask you, are the mentality of facing setbacks and the setback itself the same concept? If a self-made person encounters obstacles everywhere, whether it is financial problems or interpersonal relationships, can he still become successful? Of course not. So, what is he going to do? It is to get rid of setbacks and make them no longer setbacks, so that they can become talents. If setbacks are conducive to talents, why should we get rid of them? Please tell me.

You initially said that you have to overcome setbacks to become successful, and that getting rid of setbacks is just escaping. Then I have two questions for you:

1) Is the word setback the same as overcoming setbacks? A concept?

2) You said that to be successful, you must have the courage to face various challenges. From this sentence, I would like to ask you to deduce that the key to success is setbacks or the mentality of facing setbacks?

I started the lecture as the chairman. Didn’t the other party notice?

Frustration is of course not something you can just look at. When did I say this, please don’t take it out of context, okay? We want to solve it and overcome it, but after all your talk, you still haven’t answered my two questions:

1) Is the word setback the same as overcoming setbacks?

2) You said that to be successful, you must have the courage to face various challenges. From this sentence, I would like to ask you to deduce that the key to success is setbacks or the mentality of facing setbacks?

My point of view is: setbacks are not conducive to success, and a positive attitude in the face of setbacks is conducive to success: lol

Although I am embarrassed to say it, I still have to say that you seem to A bit lacking in analytical skills. What I mean by getting rid of is overcoming, not escaping. Only when we turn setbacks into non-setbacks can we become successful. You said that the world's richest people encounter setbacks. What I mean by getting rid of is that we must use our own strength to change and get rid of adversity. This kind of getting rid of The other party also said that is called escaping? If we don’t get rid of setbacks, are you telling us that we can only become successful if we are always in adversity and setbacks? Your last sentence -----> If he faces setbacks calmly, then he will definitely become a successful person -----> In fact, it does not prove your point of view at all. On the contrary, there are loopholes. Your position today is based on the previous Facing setbacks with a positive attitude is conducive to success, rather than the setbacks themselves. So what is the key to success? It's your mentality, your mentality when facing setbacks. When a positive or negative mentality determines whether you can become a talent, you still want to tell me that setbacks themselves are conducive to success?

p/s: I have made it clear in so many posts that we have to face setbacks. Why do you refuse to watch it? Is it because you only choose to watch what you like and what you don’t like? If you can see it, just pretend that you can't see it. Is the other party's attitude towards arguing the topic correct?

(3) Our view is: setbacks are not conducive to growth.

Human growth refers to the process of people transforming from natural people to social people and being fully socialized. The two indicators of healthy physical and mental development and the maturation of social roles show that although good times and bad times are inevitable life situations that people must face in the process of growing up, comparatively speaking, good times are more conducive to people's growth.

First of all, from the perspective of human physical and mental development, on the one hand, scientific nutrition supply and a sound public health system are more important than insufficient material security and insufficient public health services. Conducive to human physiological growth. On the other hand, good times are more conducive to the growth of people's minds, which includes the improvement of cognitive abilities, the cultivation of temperament, and the development of character. In adversity, the learning environment is repressive and allows for cognitive development, but in good times, an encouraging educational atmosphere is provided, which is more conducive to the systematic development of cognition. In adversity, one can recognize the hardships of life, but it can also easily produce anxiety and pain, and even a sense of alienation and distrust towards others. In good times, we can appreciate the warmth of family, the care of society, and the value of friendship, so that we can have a tolerant, open, and healthy mentality. In adversity, the cultivation of human character is conditional, and it is easy to exceed the basic psychological pressure range, causing personality distortion. In good times, the cultivation of human character is subtle. Through positive educational methods and good temperament cultivation, a more sound personality is forged.

Secondly, from the perspective of human socialization process, on the one hand, good times are more conducive to meeting the growth needs of all stages of life. When we were children, the care of our families in good times gave us self-confidence. and a sense of autonomy, while children who grow up in broken families are prone to low self-esteem and suspicion.

When we are teenagers, a good education in good times can make us successful in our studies and make a good living. However, if we lack education, we will temporarily lose the support for growth and lose the direction of life. When we reach adulthood or even old age, good times enable people to gain motivation for lifelong growth through self-affirmation, while the impact of adversity can easily make people depressed and self-denial. On the other hand, good times are more conducive to the maturity of people's social roles, because people's growth is always marked by their independent assumption of appropriate social roles. Difficulties in adversity can easily lead to frustration and interrupt people's lifelong growth. The process of continuous social development in good times, sound institutional arrangements, and harmonious daily life provide a more benign space for people's social roles to mature.

The good wind helps me to reach the blue clouds with its power. With the good wind of good times, we can spread the wings of growth and fly higher and further in the sky of life. If people are often worried, their physical and mental health will be affected, which will naturally affect their work, and there will be no growth. It is true that a person's life cannot always be "smooth sailing" and will encounter setbacks, but people are born with a certain ability to withstand adversity and will not be "without the slightest ability to resist". Therefore, even in good circumstances, People will adjust themselves when encountering some minor setbacks. In the face of suffering, everyone's ability to adjust is different, which does not mean that "there is no ability to resist setbacks". The ability to withstand is related to a person's personality, quality and other factors. Some are innate and some are acquired. Training, most people have the ability to self-regulate in the face of setbacks. Since adversity is bearable, good times are even more powerful. In adversity, it may be difficult to have the opportunity to do things down-to-earth, and it is also difficult to have the opportunity to grow. If there are no opportunities, can it be conducive to human growth? Times create heroes! If you are in good times and can provide a good development environment for great people, you may be able to achieve greater results.

Let us look at a true story about the adverse factors in the growth of teenagers.

In 2001, the Xixia County People’s Procuratorate handled an intentional injury case. They are all under the age of 18. They are typical juvenile violent crimes, and the motives, means and consequences of their crimes are worth pondering.

(4) 2 Frustration is not conducive to growth (1)

The case is as follows: Ren Moumou (female, 16 years old) learned that her uncle and the victim were fooling around, causing family discord. At about 10 o'clock in the night on October 21, 2001, he made an appointment with Zhang (female, 17 years old), Aku (16 years old), Du (15 years old), Liu (15 years old), and Jin (16 years old) after drinking. , Wang (15 years old), seven people went to the victim's residence. Ren, Zhang and others punched and kicked the victim. During the beating, Ren handed the kitchen knife to Zhang, and Zhang held the kitchen knife towards the victim's head. The victim was stabbed randomly on the shoulders and legs, causing serious injuries.

The above criminal suspects are all minors. There are many reasons why they embarked on the road of crime, among which the main ones are the following:

1. Bad influence on the family. Three of the seven people's families have been divorced, and several other families have also neglected discipline. Some teenagers' parents have poor marriage foundations or even distortions, and their children have prematurely suffered the adverse experiences of family civil war. Children from single-parent families lack family affinity, which casts a shadow on their souls. They are prone to inferiority complex and withdrawn personality. Most of them are introverted and precocious. Coupled with some negative influences from society, it is possible to develop bad habits and anti-social consciousness and go astray. But other families dote on their children, causing them to become spoiled and disobedient to discipline. Others use rough education, often scolding, insulting, and corporally punishing children to develop a rebellious mentality.

2. School education is too one-sided, paying too much attention to academic performance and ignoring the ideological and moral education of young people. The development of young people educated in this way is unbalanced.

3. Adverse social effects. "In the beginning, human beings are inherently good." Minors are like a blank sheet of paper, and society is the painter. Children's growth often depends on the social environment. Various undesirable phenomena in society have caused many negative impacts on children.

Because minors are not yet completely mentally stable and mentally mature, they lack the ability of adults to analyze, judge, and distinguish right from wrong on those negative and unhealthy things. They are full of fantasy, like stimulation, blind imitation, copy. This causes them to have distorted world views, outlook on life and values, and then produce various anti-social behaviors. Coupled with the weak concept of legality and the influence of concepts such as money and pleasure, people have strong vanity and poor control, and are prone to go to extremes and even commit crimes.

4. Minors’ own weaknesses.

From their own perspective, minors’ ignorance and weak legal awareness are an important reason for them to go into the abyss. First, physical development and psychological development are not coordinated. With the improvement of material living standards, the physical development of adolescents has accelerated, but their psychological development and formation are lagging behind. They generally show weak self-control ability and low ability to withstand setbacks. The second is low cognitive ability and poor discrimination ability. Adolescents have active minds and are good at imitating, but their ability to understand and distinguish things is relatively poor, they have a weak sense of right and wrong, and the boundaries between illegal and criminal activities are unclear. It is easy for them to violate regulations or even commit illegal crimes. The third is to make friends randomly and go astray. Many minors become complicit because of careless friendships, are dragged into the trap by bad guys, and become co-complicit in committing crimes, endangering society.

With the progress of society and economic development, children's life now becomes more advantageous. However, these favorable conditions may also bring adverse effects to children while benefiting them. If used improperly, children who grow up under such conditions may lack certain psychological qualities that are extremely important for their lifelong development. We can first look at some examples below.

A girl from a certain university committed suicide by jumping off a building that night because she sang off-key at a gala, causing the audience to burst into laughter!

In September 1995, a 15-year-old girl from a key middle school in Beijing was criticized for commenting on her teacher's "fatness" and attempted suicide, resulting in lifelong disability.

In 1996, the joint investigation team of the National Youth Working Committee, China Youth Daily and the Children's Research Institute of the China Youth Research Center conducted a large-scale questionnaire survey among primary and secondary school students across the country. In the "Your main shortcomings" In a survey, 31.2% of the 16,350 primary school students surveyed chose "timidity" as the number one shortcoming; among the 5,560 middle school students, 28.2% chose "timidity" as the number one shortcoming. The third shortcoming. Recently, some surveys have shown that the suicide rate of children and adolescents in our country is on the rise; when answering "What should I do if I encounter difficulties?", 97% of primary and secondary school students thought of asking their parents or teachers instead of finding a solution themselves. Solve and so on.

In view of this, the author calls on the whole society to pay attention to children's legal and moral education issues and provide children with a healthy growth environment

(5) This is my response to the debate a few days ago. The questions prepared for the attack and defense session, because I feel that this question that I spent some time thinking about is indeed not bad, so I specially put it out in the hope that it will be helpful to everyone's thinking expansion. If you have good opinions and viewpoints, you are welcome to discuss them, but please do not attack others or go too far.

Our rules are: During the attack and defense phase, the attacker can only ask questions and is not allowed to express his or her own views. The defender can only answer questions and is not allowed to ask questions in reverse or ignore the other party's questions. Other rules are the same as the general debate competition.

Our argument: Frustration is not conducive to success

The opponent’s argument: Frustration is conducive to success

The following are our defense questions:

For a musician, the greatest disaster is hearing impairment. Even the great music icon, Beethoven, had his hearing problems become more and more serious when he was 32 years old. Coupled with his troubles in love, he even had the idea of ??committing suicide and wrote a will. But this dual spiritual crisis eventually evaporated under the burning fire of music in his heart.

① So, I would like to ask the other debater, is deafness a setback for musicians?

(First of all, regardless of any question, only allow the other party to answer "yes" or "no". For this question, as long as the other party does not answer directly, or wants to When expressing your opinion on the example I just gave, you should immediately interrupt the other party and say, "Please answer my question directly. Is deafness a setback for a musician? Please The answer is 'count' or 'don't count'." I asked this question very trickyly, and the other party could only answer "count". If the other party insists on answering "it doesn't count", it will first give a bad impression to the audience and the judges, because This is an obvious question. )

(If the other party answers “not really”, that’s great. You can then ask, “So, may I ask my fellow debater, what is frustration?”. Since the other party has previously said It means "Deafness is not a setback for a musician". At this time, the other party's definition of "frustration" is untenable. This answer will undoubtedly ruin the entire game for them. Therefore, no matter what the other party thinks, he can only answer "Forget it")

②So, is deafness conducive to music creation?

(This question is as tricky as the previous one. If the other party insists on answering "favorable", that's fine. 1. You can make fun of him. "So, let me ask my fellow debaters, a deaf person is better than a normal person." Is your hearing better?"; 2. "Since the other debater thinks so, I think there is no need for me to ask any more." In this way, no matter you use any of the above two methods to deal with it, there is no need to do so. Talking to the other party is too long, because the judges and the audience will boo him. Same as above, no matter what the other party thinks, he can only answer "unfavorable")

③ So, let's ask the other party's debate friends, if we want to. To become a talent, do you have to constantly experience setbacks?

(Although this question is not as tricky as the previous two, from the other party’s standpoint, there is basically no choice. If the other party insists on answering “no” or the other party answers “no”, then answer it immediately. "If you want to explain," you can immediately interrupt the other party and say, "Thank you fellow debater for your answer, thank you for your affirmation of our point of view, my question is over." From the other party's standpoint, you can basically only answer "yes.")

④ I would like to ask my fellow debater, can everyone get up when they encounter setbacks?

(The obvious answer is, of course, "can't". If he dares to answer "can", he will be risking the same disdain as the second question. At this time, the same as the handling of the question ① , to criticize the other party's definition of "frustration")

⑤So, for those who get up, the key to their success is "their mentality and method when facing setbacks" or "the setback itself." "?

(If the other party answers "It's the frustration itself," then he is contradicting the previous answer. Just use ② questions to attack.)

⑥ Ask the opponent's debate partner , are "frustration itself" and "a person's mentality and method when facing setbacks" the same concept?

By the 6th question, your goal has been basically achieved. It doesn’t matter how the other party answers. Because you have used the other party's answer to prove that "frustration itself" is detrimental to our success and growth. Secondly, your 6th question raises another concept: "Frustration itself" is not the same concept as "a person's mentality and method when facing a team's setbacks". Moreover, judging from the previous series of questions, the other party has been trapped into this designed "cage" by you. Regardless of whether the other party is completely convinced, at least in this round of defense, you have made the audience and judges stand on your side.

If the other party answers "No." at this time. Great, you're done. "Thank you fellow debater for your answer. My question is over."

If the other party answers "Yes." Then he is contradicting himself as before. “I find it very strange that the opponent’s fellow debater previously replied that what makes people get up from setbacks is ‘a person’s mentality and method when facing setbacks’ rather than ‘the setback itself’.

Now we are told that the two are the same concept. The other debater contradicted himself in this way, and I felt there was no need for me to ask any more questions. ”

The question ends here. But in the free debate stage, you can also extend the other party’s answer to prove your own argument. For the entire competition. The ingenious design of this concept is definitely very exciting.

This example of asking a question is just to show you an idea and method of asking questions. Don’t ask questions that are unreasonable or irrelevant in the debate. It's best to be able to connect everything and give the other party no choice but to follow your lead. For some cases of the other party, don't blindly follow the other party's point of view. You should look at it from another perspective. Things are often not just the same. It's absolutely one-sided. You should also be careful about the examples you use to prove your point of view, and don't let the other party take advantage of it. Just like the "Beethoven" thing mentioned in this example, it may seem to be beneficial to the other party, but another way. From a different perspective, the impact on others is completely different.

(6) In terms of the circumstances in which talents grow, they can be divided into prosperous times and adversity. It is conducive to the growth of talents, but adversity is often a setback that talents often encounter and must face correctly in their growth. Many thinkers in ancient my country believed that "it is difficult to develop talents." The Wei School even said: "Adversity will lead to growth, and compliance will lead to success." It's too late; if it goes against the grain, it's holy; if it goes along, it's crazy; if the grass and trees don't have frost and snow, then business won't be strong; if people don't worry, then wisdom won't be achieved. "He believes that only through adversity can one become successful, which is very one-sided. However, there is a certain regularity in the sense of the phenomenon of adversity that makes one successful. It is an indisputable fact.

1. Growth of talents Analysis of the causes of reverse construction

(1) Due to specific historical conditions and social and political systems

The current situation can create heroes, and it can also stifle and block the progress and emergence of certain talents. It causes adversity for the growth of talents. Insufficient demand for military talents in peaceful times is not conducive to the development of people's military talents. This is a social "adversity" for the growth of military talents; but in times of social revolution, armed struggle, or the disintegration of the world, it has People with military talents come into being and show their ambitions. However, in this era, talents with scientific and technological talents and literary and artistic talents often face the unfavorable situation of having no way to study and no way to serve the country. It can be seen that the "current situation" has a negative impact on the country. The growth of specific talents also has its side of adversity.

From the perspective of the five social forms experienced by human beings, feudalism and theocracy were the most unfavorable to the growth of talents and were the most damaging to talents. In the European Middle Ages, the military personnel system was the most severe. With feudal family status as the core, officer status was a hereditary privilege for a small number of nobles. This blocked the channels for a large number of civilians and their children to become officers and display and develop their military talents. The imperial examination system implemented in our country after the Sui and Tang Dynasties was actually restrictive. It is a trap for people to display their talents. The majority of workers have lost the opportunity to study due to the pressure of life. It is impossible to participate in the imperial examination and pursue an official career. During the Ming and Qing Dynasties, eight-part essays were used to select scholars. Those who took the examination could only follow the gourd's example and set the example for the ancients. , there is no independent thought, and the imperial examination system has become a shackles that restrict people's success.

(2) The force of backward outdated concepts and old habits

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Some outdated concepts and old habits in our country's history have created various adversities that still hinder the growth and progress of talents. First, the habitual adversity of seniority determines whether people with high moral integrity and talent can enter their positions. It is necessary to rank in order of qualifications. "Everyone who is ignorant and wise must be qualified." Promotions and promotions must be "ranked according to seniority, one after another." Those with less qualifications have to obey the arrangement and work hard for many years. The second is the interpersonal adversity of jealousy and jealousy. In an environment filled with jealousy, it is difficult for talents to stand out. Even if they achieve success, they will not feel a sense of accomplishment. Instead, some people will feel restricted and unable to tolerate talents to stand out. Leaders also lack the due magnanimity and would rather waste talented people in vain than allow them to "come to the fore" and "show their face", resulting in potential talents being "cooped up like a dragon or lying down like a tiger." The third is isolation. Conservative sociocultural psychological adversities.

Traditional Chinese culture regards the conservative and introverted psychological character as a virtue of self-esteem. Philosophies of life such as "It is better to hide clumsiness than to be clever" and "Don't try to do whatever you want". Out of so-called "self-esteem" needs. For example, young talents have suggestions and ideas for work, are academically researched and insightful, and even have doubts about some authoritative conclusions, but they do not show the slightest trace, because once they "do what they do best" and make a joke, wouldn't it be embarrassing? Being scorned by others and losing "self-esteem"... In this way, how many insights have been brought to naught, and how many creations have been aborted? Improper emphasis on self-esteem is tantamount to creating mental shackles and psychological adversity for oneself.

(3) Imbalance in talent development

In long-distance running competitions, those in front often bear greater wind resistance or headwind force. The same principle applies to the development and progress of talents. Once someone becomes famous, or even becomes a public figure, society and people around him will pay more attention to him, have higher expectations for him, and the requirements for him will be more demanding. This creates a kind of pressure invisibly, which can also be called a "happy adversity".

There is also an adversity caused by the "Matthew Effect": due to the different growth rates of talents, outstanding talents who are at the forefront are easily recognized by the organization and society, and receive honors and rewards; Talents are difficult to be recognized and often fall into the troubles and adversities of the "Matthew Effect". The "Matthew Effect" often promotes the development of apparent talents at the expense of the development of potential talents, thereby depriving potential talents of their development opportunities and possibilities. The "Matthew Effect" creates artificial adversities and obstacles to the growth of potential talents through this "deprivation" mechanism, which not only suppresses talents, but also buries talents.