Once directed a movie, "20 30 40". I have already passed the turmoil of my twenties and the excitement of my thirties, so today she can say that she is still writing legends at the age of sixty.

How does she view herself and the world?

Dong Qing: Many women start to avoid talking about their age from the age of thirty or thirty-five. You don’t seem to have such concerns.

Sylvia Chang: I don’t think there is anything to hide or avoid talking about, as long as I can face good or bad things, and I am quite satisfied with myself. When you reach this age, you can still continue to work.

Dong Qing: Everyone was young once, and everyone will enter middle age and old age. This is a natural law.

Sylvia Chang: When I was forty years old, I began to find that when I was eating, the grain of rice suddenly became very blurry. I had to take the rice bowl farther away so that I could see clearly what I was eating. . I just want to say this, there must be something wrong with my eyes. So on the day I turned 40, I walked into the optical shop very obediently. Sure enough, I really have the beginning of presbyopia. My gray hair starts from my eyebrows. Suddenly you will see and say, strange, there seems to be some empty space on the eyebrows. If you look carefully, it turns out that there are some empty spaces. My eyebrows are white.

Sylvia Chang: In 1992, there was a song, "The Price of Love", which Li Zongsheng wrote to me. At that time, I felt that the name was a bit boring. I sang it again two years ago, and suddenly I realized that it was my heart that was singing this song. This heart has experienced more things, so almost every sentence in it is a picture, a story, so Especially sentimental.

Many things have passed, and we still have to move forward. So every time I say "let's go, let's go", the sentiment is particularly strong. It is a kind of courage.

Dong Qing: Because you did fall in love vigorously. When you were young, you especially liked talented men.

Sylvia Chang: I still like it now.

Dong Qing: Why did those great people who fell in love with such great people fail to get married in the end?

Sylvia Chang: At a certain point, you will feel that we can only go so far, and when you go further, your paths will diverge.

Dong Qing: Are there any differences in the choices? People to love and people to marry.

Sylvia Chang: Many things are destined, so it will not be one point more or one point less. He may not be the Prince Charming you imagined when you were young, but he just showed up. When my husband married me, he told me a famous saying: He said that the two of us must not stick together. I think what he said is so reasonable. I believe that everyone will always be lonely when they come and go alone, so you must understand: I am me, you are you, we are not All our happiness should depend on what the other person gives you.

Dong Qing: You wrote your first book after you were sixty years old, called "Understatement".

I feel a little surprised because: as a director, actor, and screenwriter, you should be a good storyteller, and you can use very colorful language to tell your wonderful past. But you chose to be calm and gentle. Is this your current mood and state?

Sylvia Chang: I feel like this. I don’t deliberately add too many colors because I hope the viewer will have space. I like to make complex things very simple. This is how I handle things.

Dong Qing: Actually, I would like to hear Sister Zhang redefine some things when she reaches this age: such as happiness.

Sylvia Chang: I am happy because I believe that each of them only realizes how elusive their potential is after going through a painful moment.

I believe that any good artist is definitely a person who knows how to enjoy pain. Pain actually takes you on a path of progress.

Dong Qing: If there is no pain at all, it is unbearable. Really, if you say in this life, I have no pain, my life will be in vain.

So how do you define the mother-daughter relationship?

Sylvia Chang: That is the most difficult and difficult relationship to explain. When you are young, you are the daughter, and when your mother is older, you are the mother.

Dong Qing: How do you know how a woman smells?

Sylvia Chang: Taste has to be tasted. I believe that taste comes from your own attitude towards life. How to walk this road well, that is your own taste.

What Sylvia Chang read was "Out of Africa" ??by Karen Blixen. She said that Kenya was also the first country she went to in Africa. Everything about it brings you back to the very beginning and the most beautiful place. A pristine place.

And it is actually a process of self-growth for the heroine. The land of Africa gave her a lot of thinking, allowing her to eventually become a very brave and independent person.