The following are other people's articles about fantasy world. The rules are clear and definite.
About CLANNAD's fantasy world (transferred from Fantasy)
■ Decision section
First, "lightness" is a human desire.
The "light" seen in the fantasy world is the desire of people in the real world.
The "light" seen in the real world is a girl's wish.
Second, girls are tourists and dolls are friends.
Third, the "beast" is something made by human beings in the real world. Because the town lost the love between people and the things it made. These things exist in the form of "beasts" in the fantasy world, and they have no "heart". But not all "beasts" have no "hearts". When the doll is lost, when the doll and the girl are leaving the fantasy world and falling on the snow, find the doll's "beast" and save them. They are Zhuzi's jiaozi and Toyoko's starfish. They have gained love and a "heart".
Fourth, the fantasy world has existed since ancient times.
Fifth, the consciousness of friends also exists in both worlds.
Sixth, a girl's life (at least her consciousness) was born in a fantasy world.
■ Inference part
First, the fantasy world and the real world overlap in three dimensions. The difference in observation angles leads to the difference in the actual scenes of the two worlds.
Second, the inference of time. Friends also lose their sense of time, while sunbathers are sensitive to time. Because friends are also in the state of "light", while sunseeker enters the fantasy world in the state of human beings.
Third, Zhu miraculously fell ill when he was a child. From then on, she merged with this small town, thus knowing the story of the fantasy world (subconscious). The changes in the town made her weaker and weaker.
Sunseeker died because the fantasy world lost its vitality. Because of the connection between Sunseeker and fantasy world, she chose to be the consciousness of fantasy world.
5. After entering the fantasy world in human form, Sunseeker lost his original memory in the real world and began to merge with the fantasy world to become the consciousness of the fantasy world.
Finally, Zhu was resurrected because of the wish of the whole town. At this time, the fantasy world began to be full of love, and many "beasts" with "hearts" appeared. The fantasy world no longer needs to provide vitality for the "Sunseeker" and let them live happily.
■ Hypothetical part
First, the fantasy world exists in the fourth dimension of the real world, the desire dimension. The fourth dimension of the fantasy world is the time of the real world, so the consciousness of the fantasy world can control the time of the real world. (the dimension here refers to the direction that can move freely, which is also the embodiment of the blending of the two worlds. )
Second, time in the fantasy world only moves in one direction, so friends go back to the past and sunseeker still exists in the fantasy world. Therefore, the birth of "Sunseeker" in the last few cycles is the wish that Sunseeker has become a fantasy world consciousness.
Third, the tree that Anthony wong tried to protect is the connection point between the real world and the fantasy world. This tree keeps pace with the time in the fantasy world and has the power to gather girls' wishes. Therefore, the "light" obtained by each cycle will gather under the tree, and the "light" will not disappear because of the cycle.
■ Problem section
1. Why can Fengzi fantasize about the world, in the form of "light" or in the form of people? (According to the particularity of He Zhuxi, it should be in the form of "light", right? In addition, it is inferred that people can enter the fantasy world if they have a strong desire after death? )
Second, what does the original house imply?
Third, after Zhu died, why didn't Peng enter the fantasy world? (Based on this, can it be inferred that Peng also entered the fantasy world after Peng's death, and his consciousness stayed in the real world, and he hoped to go to the fantasy world? )
4. What is the connection between the preface of Fantasy World and Chapter 12? Are you traveling in the same fantasy world or twice? Why are there subtle differences in lines?
5. Why can people see the wind that is not in the hospital in the real world? Does this wind have a corresponding existence in the fantasy world?
6. What does winter in the fantasy world mean? Is it a reflection of the real world winter? Is it a reflection of the destruction of the real world? Is it a necessary ceremony to become a fantasy world consciousness? Judging from the girl's words, she is not very flustered, saying that she will always be guarding. Can it be considered as a fixed ceremony to completely integrate the fantasy world? )
7. If a friend also entered the fantasy world with the desire to save the sunseeker, why did he choose to be born in a desolate world when he lost his memory? (Can only be considered as subconscious and fate? )
Eight, the girl said, I used to be the world. Well, when did the world come into being? When did girls begin to exist in the fantasy world? At the beginning of the fantasy world? Or after? Did a girl have a human body when she was born? Do girls have many bodies in the long years? Are the sunseeker and the girl the same person or hybrids?
■ Logical sequence
Zhu was seriously ill when he was a child, and the wish of the town saved Zhu, and he was linked with her from then on-> Friends also know Zhu-> When Fengzi died, she went to the fantasy world as she wished and met a girl in the fantasy world.
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Sunseeker gets life from fantasy world and is born-> Zhu is dead->; Sun Xi is dead.
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Sunseeker will become a fantasy world and enter the fantasy world in human form, losing the memory of the real world->; Friends also died with deep regrets and unfulfilled wishes.
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Friends also want to enter the fantasy world-> Meet sunseeker in fantasy world-> Because sunseeker is the object of friends' wishes, he unconsciously stayed->; Sunseeker gave Peng a body-> They live in a fantasy world.
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Friends should also take Sunseeker out of the fantasy world-> The integration of sunseeker and fantasy world is nearing completion, and the winter of fantasy world is coming soon->; Sunseeker remembered the memory of the real world and her desire to save her mother.
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Sunseeker told Peng about "light" and asked Peng to look for "light"->; Sunseeker moved the fourth axis of the fantasy world and brought the time in the real world back to the day when Peng also met Zhu.
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Peng also lost his memory in the fantasy world-> Sunseeker has become-> fantasy world consciousness; Friends also know Zhu-> Friends who have lost their memories are about to repeat the tragedy again-> Sunseeker dialed back the time of the real world.
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(Friends also keep time to go back and forth)
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Game Academy begins-> The long-term cycle has left more and more marks on the subconscious of friends->; Do nothing/get the light->; Sunseeker dialed back the time of the real world.
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Friends also constantly get "light"->; The love for the real world and the vitality of the fantasy world are gradually restored-> Because of the need for more light, Sunseeker decided to extend the time of the Zhudao route instead of setting it back (during which Toyoko miraculously recovered and left some memories in the fantasy world).
(Doubt, each line is different in length. Does the death of Feng Zi happen every cycle? Or is the wind itself very special and even exists in two worlds at the same time? )
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Have questions. Since Sunseeker believes that Friends can get enough light in the following stories, why did he forget that Anthony Wong's "light" won't be available until two weeks after the end of the story? Did you deliberately let the players experience the original story? (Why did Huang Qiusheng make different choices when going through customs twice? Is he also connected with the fantasy world? Or the will of the town? )
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Light collection (of course, this may be just a form of game)->; People in small towns regain their love and fantasize about the prosperity of the world-> Zhu Shengxi->; The wish of the town caused a miracle and saved Zhu.
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Oshima survived, and Sunseeker was no longer associated with the fantasy world. She is no longer the girl in the fantasy world-> The family lives happily with this town.
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The girl in the fantasy world came to the tree where Qiu Sheng prayed for a miracle and everything was happy.
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game over
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The fantasy world still exists, guarding the real world.
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..... Respondent: Qiuwen | Level 5 | August 25th, 2009 2 1: 19 | Report.
CLANNAD's core worldview, although the fantasy world has little influence on the plot, reasonably explains something and creates great suspense in the early stage of the game to attract players. [Finally, the author found that the connection between fantasy world and plot is not as close as expected, so he used it.
Need literate research articles, see my colleagues.
Logical order [this is necessary, otherwise the following explanation may not be possible. In addition, because the last sentence of the novel version tends to "complicate" the understanding of this logical order, it is ignored and changed to Q &；; Discuss in]
0) The fantasy world has existed since ancient times, and the town was once full of miracles of light [mentioned at the end of Jining Line].
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1) Zhu was seriously ill when he was a child. Anthony wong prayed by the big tree in the sky above the town, which caused a miracle. The wish of the town (light) in the fantasy world saved Zhu, but it also linked the fantasy world with Zhu's soul.
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2) Friends also met and fell in love with Zhu, and the town gradually lost its love and yearning, making the fantasy world have to draw nutrients from Zhu.
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3) Oshima died, and Sunseeker inherited the contract between Oshima and the fantasy world and was born.
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4) Sunseeker died.
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5) Because of the power of missing and her special relationship with the fantasy world, Sunseeker can exist in the fantasy world in the form of human beings and voluntarily become the will of the fantasy world in order to save her mother, but she has lost most of her memories of the real world.
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6) Peng also came to the fantasy world because of blood relationship and strong yearning.
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7) Sunseeker felt Ye Peng's heart and made a robot body for him.
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8) The two began to live in a fantasy world.
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9) Peng also remembered something, so he left the dreamland with Sunseeker, and the fusion of Sunseeker and Dreamland was almost completed, and the dreamland came in winter.
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10) Saint Sunseeker remembered some memories of the real world and her wish to save her mother (light).
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1 1) Sunseeker told Peng about "light" and asked Peng to find "light". Sunseeker relies on himself as a four-dimensional person [BW? ] changed the timeline and brought it back to the day when I met Zhu.
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12) Peng also lost his memory in the fantasy world. Sunseeker became the consciousness of the fantasy world and managed the "light" of the town.
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13) at the beginning of the game academy, every time a player starts a new game and S/L, it can be regarded as a sunseeker helping his friends move the timeline at will. During his coma, Fengzi entered the fantasy world because of his strong thoughts, and gained strength from Sunseeker and appeared in the college. Toyoko lost most of his memories of the fantasy world [so did the false ambition of the feeder line].
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14) Peng also constantly collects "light" in campus articles. With the help of these lights, the vitality of the town's love and fantasy world gradually recovered. Peng also entered the wind line in a certain reincarnation and met the wind from the fantasy world, which helped her.
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15) however, these "lights" are not enough, so Sunseeker decided to extend the time of Zhulu route instead of dialing back. During this period, because Peng also had memories of Fengzi's line, he volunteered to use a "lamp" for Fengzi. With the help of "light" and her own efforts, Toyoko recovered and left some memories of her fantasy world.
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Tragedy repeats itself [AS- Zhou Mu]. The sunseeker in Zhou Mu and the sunseeker in the fantasy world are different individuals with the same soul.
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17) Because the time and conditions for getting Qiu Guang and Zaomiaoguang coincide and contradict, friends have to go through reincarnation again to get Qiu Guang.
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18) With 13' s nephew's collection, people in the town have found their love again, and the fantasy world is prosperous. Zhu and her descendants no longer need to provide nutrients for the fantasy world.
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19) Zhu Zaixi gave birth to the wish of a small town. The miracle of light caused by light saved Zhu.
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20) History has changed. The sunseeker in this timeline is no longer connected with the fantasy world. She is no longer the girl in the fantasy world [but the soul is connected], and the family lives happily with the town.
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2 1) The fantasy world began to come back to life because of the Okazaki family's "affection", and Sunseeker was no longer weak because of the decline of the fantasy world.
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22) Sunseeker came to meet the wind under the tree where Anthony Qiu prayed for a miracle with the memory of the fantasy world [such as Zhu Te's ending], and the combination of Sunseeker and the soul of the fantasy world girl was completed.
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23) Game over
Key words:
Fantasy world: the four-dimensional world is no different from the three-dimensional world in appearance, but it will be influenced by the changes of its subordinate three-dimensional world. When the town loses its love and yearning, the fantasy world will become lifeless and desolate. The principle of its production and the physical basis of its operation are based on the results obtained.
Maiden: that is, the holy sunseeker. It is understandable that she and Sunseeker have the same soul.
Girl's Light: The girl's initial wish was to save her mother, but with the increase of her experience in the fantasy world, she began to realize her responsibility and decided to stay and let the light in the fantasy world get her own happiness (later wish). All roads lead to the same goal. Although the girl didn't directly use her own strength to save Zhu, she finally achieved her goal with her friend's 13 light jade and the thoughts of the whole town.
Doll's light: the light of a doll is the light of a friend. Because this friend knew that Zhu Can would not be resurrected, his only wish was to "be with his daughter forever", which is why the doll never gave up following the girl in the fantasy world.
The reincarnation of friends: Friends must also collect enough light jade to save their lovers, but because the time axes of each light jade line coincide, friends should also be reincarnated. In the constant cycle, friends also lost most of the memories of the last cycle, but a small part of the memories remained [such as the story that the thread got the light of Mei Zuozhi, the story that friends exchanged jade for phoenix, and friends' impressions of Zhu's play in "Sacrifice to the Ancestor"].
The reincarnation of Feng Zi: Feng Zi came to the fantasy world by accident, but because he went to the fantasy world, Feng Zi kept Mori's campus items and his friends. The author always thought that Toyoko liked the friends in As's articles about sunseeker.
Reincarnation of Zhu Zhu: Zhu Zhu himself has never been to the fantasy world, so he won't leave any memories of reincarnation on campus. But Zhu Zhu, who gave Sun Xi some souls, still shared some memories of the fantasy world and created this drama.
Tiger Cat and Fantasy World: It is impossible for individuals to verify whether the tiger cat has been to the fantasy world in the game. Personally, I think it tends to think that I have been to the fantasy world, and it is in an immaterial mental state (mind) like the wind.
Two sun trackers, unified soul: this is found in many animation game settings. A soul has entered a different universe [or "parallel world"] because of historical changes. Although they are two different people, some of them will be connected by * * *. For example, Xuanyuanjian 4- Cangzhitao [Am I going too far ...].
The development of the town [novel version of the story]: Sunseeker wants to go abroad to play, suggesting that the bond between Sunseeker in Jute and the girl in the fantasy world still exists, which represents the efforts made by the town to seek a healthy development path.
A conjecture on the correspondence between fantasy world and real world;
Light: We know that there are two kinds of light. Although the sources are different, they are essentially the same.
1) the essence of light:
Energy aggregation, that is, spiritual strength, or "missing body", is determined by individual spiritual strength (the power of love and missing). Generally speaking, people who fantasize about the world have only one lamp because of the small "container". No matter how much he/she misses, no matter how deep he/she misses, there will only be one lamp. Unlike the girl in the fantasy world, she made a contract with the fantasy world. She is the fantasy world itself, and her "container" is much bigger, so she has a lot of light.
2) the role of light:
A lamp is a kind of power, which can cause a small miracle. If there is a miracle of resurrecting Oshima, it needs a lot of light (it should be noted here that Oshima's resurrection is not because the fantasy world has regained its strength, because Oshima passed on the contract with the fantasy world after giving birth to Sunseeker).
3) The relationship between light (very important)
The source of light is the power of fantasy world, taking girls as an example;
# The thoughts of small-town people appear in the fantasy world and exist in the form of light, so the light in the fantasy world is the thoughts of small-town people.
Generally speaking, girls should use their own strength to help these lamps realize their wishes. The power that girls use is their own "light" (also the power of fantasy world), that is, their own "missing". The girl's "giving her light to those in need" is the concrete form of "realizing her wishes" (in the story of Mei Zuozhi, the jade in the arms of pseudo-Ma Zhi is this form). When the wishes of the townspeople come true,
# When people in the real world realize their wishes in a small town, because it helps girls to preserve their strength, girls will give some of their saved strength to people who help others in the form of "light jade" (this is one of the theoretical basis for friends to collect light in the game), but because there are fewer and fewer "good people" in small towns in recent decades, as Ning Ji said, there are fewer and fewer incidents of giving light jade in the fantasy world.
4) Others:
The light in the real world is also a girl's memory, because from the fantasy world script, the girl did not recall her wish at first (that is, the wish to save her mother-Zhu), so the light in the real world is a fragment of the girl's memory. Friends must also gather the girl's light to remind her of her experiences.
Other images in the fantasy world;
Although the dreamland exists objectively, from the literary point of view, everything that Sunseeker experienced in the dreamland really coincides with her life (this should be Ma Zhi's intention), so everything related to Sunseeker in the dreamland in the game is a portrayal of her life. However, it needs to be clarified that if the fantasy world is regarded as the result of the creation of the subjective consciousness of the sunseeker just because of the coincidence of images (that is, the fantasy world is created by the sunseeker), there will be many unexplained problems. For example, if the ancient light helps the people in the town, and if they think that the dreamland was created by the Sunseeker, then they will deny the conclusion that the dancing streamers on the grassland are the thoughts of the people in the town, which is unacceptable to the author.
Robot: Sunseeker in the fantasy world felt the existence of Ye Peng's "heart" and made a body for him.
There are two possibilities about why friends board robots:
1) Because before Sunseeker died, the little robot was the first gift from her friend. This memory is deep, and the sunseeker in the fantasy world still has a certain impression.
2) Contrary to 1, because Sunseeker created a robot in the fantasy world, in AS- Zhou Mu, Sunseeker chose a small robot as his father's gift. This reincarnation of Sunseeker is different individuals of the same soul, and a small amount of memories of other individuals in the fantasy world are preserved.
Failed robot: Because Fengzi had a great influence on Sunseeker before his death, Sunseeker had memories of Fengzi and the real world. This robot is the container of Fengzi's mind, but because Fengzi's situation is different from Ye Peng's, Fengzi in the fantasy world has memories of the real world, and she doesn't want to stay, so the robot failed (thank you for guessing CAT9874 123, which I personally think is very likely).
House: It symbolizes the home of Sunseeker and Ye Peng (in an abstract sense, it has nothing to do with the Guhe couple). Sunseeker longs for such a home, but the home in the fantasy world is as barren as before her death. This house was not built by a girl, so it can be inferred that there is at least one manager like a girl in the fantasy world, which can also prove that the fantasy world has existed since ancient times.
Beast: A symbol explicitly mentioned by Ma Zhi in VFB. Beasts are the reflection of things created by human beings in the fantasy world. Things created by love in the real world will become animals with "hearts". For example, jiaozi, Zhuzi (the one who brought the robot back to the girl, three of whom were like jiaozi, Zhuzi), and the starfish woodcarving that my friend brought home to my father (the group that saved people in the snow).
Grassland: the food of small animals should refer to the natural resources used to make things in reality. The bare fantasy world may be an allusion to the destructive demand of human beings for natural resources in the real world.
Front Park (tattered swings and slides): This is the most familiar place before Sun Xi died, with girls and dolls there.
Winter: It symbolizes the decline of fantasy world, and it also symbolizes the scene of Sunseeker's death before his death. This is because the integration of fantasy world and sunseeker is nearing completion (that is, sunseeker's thoughts have more and more influence on fantasy world). At present, the two winters mentioned in the game (one is the opening of the game and the other is the fantasy world 12) should be the same [flashback]. Because the power of the sunseeker is gradually exhausted. The decline of the girl's body in the fantasy world is not "winter erodes the girl's physical strength." On the contrary, it is the decline of girls' physical strength that leads to the arrival of winter in the fantasy world. It can be said that when the fantasy world is full of power, the fantasy world should be like spring all the year round.
Garbage: remnants of light. In the first half of the fantasy world, the little robot said that "those rubbish are like corpses", but we know that rubbish is a container of light. It can be inferred that after the three-dimensional life came to the fantasy world, the material remains left by the spiritual part [light] can basically be equivalent to thinking that these garbage are human bodies.
Tree: a big tree connecting the real world and the fantasy world [the entrance to hyperspace ... that is, the tree in the title picture], and the jade obtained in reincarnation is stored under the tree.
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Unofficial q&; a set
Q 1, what do you need to enter the fantasy world?
A 1: Personal containers must be small and have a strong yearning. The author borrows the concept of container to explain.
Q2, what is the process of entering the fantasy world?
A2: The soul is separated from the body in the real world, the remaining part becomes garbage in the fantasy world, and the pure spiritual part becomes jade.
Q3, has Zhu ever entered the fantasy world?
A3: I don't think so. There are two possible statements: first, judging from Zhu's psychological activities during his death, Zhu's wishes in the real world have basically been realized (there is no light on Zhu's line from beginning to end), which does not meet the conditions for entering the fantasy world; Second, although Zhu entered into a contract with the fantasy world, Zhu was extremely weak when she gave birth, and she left all her remaining energy to Sunseeker, so she did not have the conditions to appear in the fantasy world in human form like Sunseeker (the author strongly believes that a girl can only remain human if she has enough energy).
Q4。 The novel version says, "A similar thing happened to Oshima when he was a child: he suddenly disappeared and then appeared under that big tree." What is the connection with the game version of Oshima? What is this?
A4: The novel version is Ma Zhi's supplement to the game. Let's make a concrete guess. In fact, I think there are some contradictions:
AS three. (The end of Zhu's life) Sunseeker is gone. Because the town has regained its vitality, Sunseeker (I call Sunseeker in the fantasy world a "girl") must complete the ceremony with the fantasy world.
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Sunseeker enters the fantasy world under the big tree (disappearance begins)
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Sunseeker meets a girl in the fantasy world, and the ceremony begins. [Author's Note: This ceremony is to let each other's souls merge (the body is still separated, and the girl needs to continue to manage the fantasy world), and * * * enjoys the memories. But this is just speculation]
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After the ceremony, I returned to the real world under the tree and was seen by Fengzi. There is also a problem here, because from the title screen after customs clearance, Fengzi should see a girl instead of a small sunseeker, but Fengzi said: I smell lovely, so I think it is Sunseeker who is lying under the big tree in the real world, while the girl in the fantasy world is lying on the big tree on the other side of the fantasy world in the title screen.
Q5, why did Oshima not enter the fantasy world after his death, but Sunseeker went in and became an administrator after his death?
When Zhu died, he gave all his strength to Sunseeker. In my opinion, Sunseeker's death was not passive, but active. When Sunseeker got her father's love, she felt that she should do something for her father, and if this continues, her body will be dragged down by the fantasy world like her mother, so Sunseeker sacrificed herself to enter the fantasy world ahead of time in the real world, looking for ways to solve the decline of the fantasy world and revive her mother.
Q6, about the age of girls in fantasy world, why are they older than when Sunseeker died?
A6: The author thinks that the girl has lived in the fantasy world for a period of time, and because the illusionist will not die normally in the real world (explained in Q5), the girl will grow up like a sleeping person.
Q7, did Peng die in the real world before he entered the fantasy world and became a doll?
A7: No, it can be considered that Peng was still alive a few years after Sunseeker's death, which should be equal to "the difference between the age of the girl in the fantasy world and the age when Sunseeker died", while Peng was sick and unconscious because of extreme sadness, or just entered the fantasy world in his sleep. The author believes that people who die normally will not come back to life even if they move the timeline, and in the fantasy world, the girl clearly said that dolls exist in two worlds at the same time.
Q8: When did Peng also enter the fantasy world?
Answer 8: Sunseeker enters after death. After he entered, he existed in the form of light like other "missing" and could not feel everything in the fantasy world until the girl made a body for him.
Q9, we know that the light in the real world is a girl's wish. What is the function of this lamp?
A9: A lamp in the real world is the power of a girl. A girl must use her own strength to help people fulfill their wishes (that is, she must consume one light, and if she must achieve a great miracle, she must have a lot of light). The completion of integration is also the power of fantasy world.
Q 10 Some people say that "everything that Sunseeker experienced in the fantasy world is a microcosm of her childhood, and the fantasy world traces everything she experienced in the real world from the perspective of Sunseeker", which seems to contradict the above theory?
A 10: but from another angle, in fact, the fantasy world exists and develops objectively, and the reason for this overlap is purely the result of the subjective initiative of the sunseeker in the fantasy world:
Doll: It's made by Sunseeker.
Beast: Besides jiaozi and starfish, there are more animals in the fantasy world.
Parker: It's made by Sunseeker Company.
House: This is controversial. Personally, I think there was a manager before. Since the fantasy world can build parks and houses.
Winter: This is probably the most unconvincing image in my theory. Personally, there are several reasons why winter appears:
1) Ma Zhi is a normal person. He hasn't been to the fourth dimension. If you imagine a desolate world, you can only write plays in winter.
2) Take care of the ending of AS- Zhou Mu to set off the atmosphere.
That's ... a little irrelevant. Personally, I think this statement is very reasonable (which is also the basis for fantasy world things to find the corresponding realistic prototype), but this is definitely not the status quo of fantasy world, but the consciousness of Sunseeker (Sunseeker's consciousness is only an influence on fantasy world, not a complete change, and this influence will become greater after the integration of fantasy world is completed). The objective existence of the fantasy world since ancient times is undeniable.
Q 1 1, Liang Yuan once said in VFB: "There is basically no obvious difference between the fantasy world and the real world. It's just that we look at things differently in our own world. " How to understand?
A 1 1: It's actually a vague statement ... Liang Yuan didn't intend to make it clear at all. ............
There is no obvious difference between the two because the fantasy world and the real world exist in the same universe [different from the multiverse, the same universe refers to the superposition of the fantasy world and the real world in time and space, but the real world cannot observe the fantasy world], and the real world is only a timeline remnant of the fantasy world [because the fantasy world is one dimension higher]. Everything in the real world will appear in another form in the fantasy world [that is, the way of looking at things is different, that is, it is not that the "people" who look at things are different, just because the physical laws of the world have changed in one dimension, resulting in changes in the way of looking at things and the results of looking at things. ]