The answer is as follows:

1. Retirement shall be subject to the personal personnel file, and the date of birth shall be subject to the record of the first material in the file.

2. Most retirees now have working experience in state-owned enterprises, and the length of service is based on the time recorded on the recruitment form.

3. Because China's social security system was implemented in August of 1989, but there was no personal account until June of 1995, the length of service of those who joined the work before 1995 was determined according to the following conditions:

(1) People whose personal files are complete and continuous (please note that many things in personal files were filled in by themselves in those years, so do they really have the responsibility). Those who paid social security from 1989 to 10 will retire according to the length of service calculated in the file records. (2) The file records are complete and continuous, but if the social security is not paid or not paid in full during the period from August 1989 to June 1995, the employee can retire only after paying the social security.

(3) There is only one situation to provide the salary table of the current year, and there are two prerequisites: one is that you worked as a temporary worker before being officially hired as a state-owned enterprise employee before August 1989, and the other is that you worked as a temporary worker and were later hired as a state-owned enterprise employee. In line with these two premises, if you want to count the time as a temporary worker into the length of service, you must provide a payroll or other physical evidence (the witness is useless).

In fact, when handling retirement files, the identification of 85 to 90 years as the payment period has been questioned.

There are several reasons for this suspicion:

First, I was a temporary worker in my work in 1985, and I became a regular worker in 1990. 1993, it should be regarded as the previous payment period, but according to the pension insurance regulations, you must provide a complete chain of evidence such as employment agreement and payroll when you work in the unit to prove the continuity of your work in this unit. It can be regarded as the payment period.

Second, in 1985, the company was contracted, and in 1990, it became a regular worker. Contract employees should have paid endowment insurance from 1986, but they didn't pay it for various reasons. Regular workers began to pay old-age insurance in 1993, and some areas began to pay old-age insurance in 9 1. If it is a contract system from 1986 to 1990, it is necessary to provide a salary table and make up the payment before it can be recognized as the actual length of service.

Third, due to historical reasons, the files are short of pages, which is not enough to identify the actual retirement age. Payrolls prove uninterrupted service years.

In short, any missing item in the file needs to provide a payroll, which is the most direct evidence to prove whether you are on the job or not.

Buy two bottles of wine quickly, and find the unit financial accountant to check the payroll!

The layman replied, thanks for reading!

This question seems to have been answered last year. I have to repeat a few words in order to improve boys' memory. I hope my answer will help you apply for retirement. First of all, when people retire, they report all the retirement application materials to the Human Resources and Social Security Bureau. Why does the Human Resources and Social Security Bureau still need the salary table of the client for 85-90 years? This is because the things recorded in the customer file are unclear, especially the work column is blank. Just like our construction industry, bricklayers belong to a special type of work. Men over 55 years old and women over 45 years old can apply for retirement five years in advance. Because the promotion years in the file can't reach the years of engaging in special types of work, the employees of the unit are required to provide the payroll of the parties, because there is a record of "special type of work subsidy" on the payroll.

In the past, the payroll of our unit was uniformly printed by the labor and personnel department in triplicate, with three colors: black, red and green. The first copy is the labor stub, the second copy is the financial bookkeeping, and the third copy is for the team to pay wages. Under normal circumstances, after the team pays the completion fund, it will throw away the salary payment form at will, and no one will keep it.

If it is very difficult to find payslips in production classes and workshops, it is not very important to find the insurance coefficient in the labor department of the unit, because the stubs are kept for up to five years. If you want to find the salary payment table from 1985 to 1990, you can directly go to the financial department of the unit to inquire. Most financial vouchers have a shelf life, including 15, 30 years, and permanent. You can find the last two months of each year. If there is no record of special job subsidies in the payroll, then you can only handle it according to the normal retirement age.

When I didn't retire, I worked in the original unit for more than 20 years in labor and personnel management. This kind of thing often happens. As long as the original unit didn't rot completely, someone still left it. Both the personnel in the labor department and the personnel in the financial department will actively help you. Because employee retirement is a win-win situation for both enterprises and individuals, including unit leaders who will also give you the green light and provide all conveniences. Hello, landlord. I didn't find the payroll from 1985 to 1990 when I retired. What if there is no payroll and the length of service is not calculated? When you retire, during the period from 1985 to 1990, there is no actual payment period of old-age insurance, only the so-called deemed payment period, but the main basis for determining the deemed payment period is through the relevant materials in your personal file, that is to say, you must have relevant information such as salary change table and recruitment table in your personal file to determine the deemed payment period.

If you can't verify your deemed payment period in your personal file, then in the end, there will be no transitional pension when you retire. Under normal circumstances, the so-called transitional pension benefits can be added to the total pension insurance, so the final level of pension benefits is relatively high, so under this premise, if we can't find this part of the payroll, it may have a certain impact on our pension benefits.

If there is a deemed payment period, there will generally be a transitional pension, so it will be added to the total pension insurance, and eventually you can get a higher pension. For yourself, the actual income after retirement will also increase, so try to find the working years in these years, because the working years in these years are actually very important.

Thanks for reading, please add my attention.

When you retire, the Social Security Bureau requires you to show your salary table from 85 to 90 years, indicating that the contents of your personnel file records are missing during this period. Failure to calculate the length of service truthfully will lead to the following two results: ① The number of years cannot be recognized as annual payment, and the pension after retirement is much lower; ② Special jobs cannot be retired early, and the pension is much lower;

The best way to solve this problem is to go to the company or the company where you worked during the period of 85-90 to find the payroll, take photos and copy the original payroll every month, and affix the official seal to the copy.

As the original voucher in financial management, the payroll is kept for 30 years, which can be found in general units. 1, the salary slip of that year was handwritten with carbon paper, and the salary slip was made in triplicate, one for the finance department and one for the labor department. The payroll of the financial department is kept as the original voucher, and the retention period is extended from 20 years to 30 years. Old units generally keep this original voucher permanently. If you have been in this unit and the unit still exists, then you only need to go to the unit to handle the file transfer formalities, then go to the financial department or the labor department to find the payroll for the period of 85-90, and take photos and copies of the original payroll every month, affix the official seal of the unit and the seal consistent with the original and copy to the Social Security Bureau to confirm the length of service and apply for retirement;

The above two were taken care of by myself. When I retired, I provided the 93-year payroll and social security payment records for others to check the files. These handwritten records are not only well preserved, but also clear and neat.

2. If your 1985, 1990 work units have closed down, or have been restructured or reorganized, then you should go to the archives department where the unit is located to find files, and hand over the enterprise files, financial files and personnel files to the department for safekeeping. After finding it, it is still the same as above.

3, if you can't find it, it's a pity, there is basically no solution. Whether it is the identification of the working years of special types of work or the identification of the deemed payment period, the social security department strictly follows the records of the archives and refuses to identify the altered, forged or missing parts in the archives. If it is a special type of work, it means that not only can you not retire five years in advance, but your pension will be much lower; If it is not a special job, it also means that your pension will be much lower.

4. If the employer is still there and the payroll for 1985-90 has not been found, you can prove that there are problems in the personnel file management of the employer, which has caused your economic interests to be damaged. You can go to court to sue the employer and demand economic compensation.

"the Supreme People's Court's Reply on the Issue of the Parties suing the original employer for reissue of personnel files and compensation for economic losses after the personnel files were lost by the original unit" points out that enterprises and institutions that keep files should bear corresponding civil liabilities if they violate the legal provisions on proper custody of files and lose other people's files.

As long as the files are complete, the old-age insurance is paid continuously, and you have not left your original unit, even if you are laid off, you must handle it. If you don't handle it, you can do a municipal question and answer first, and then take the judicial route.

1979- 1993, I bought my own old-age insurance 1993- 18. My file was lost by my unit, so I shouldn't admit it. I searched bit by bit and found the documents of recruitment, regularization and grading before I was certified to participate in the insurance. But when you retire, the trouble comes, asking you to show proof materials from 79 to 93, including grain books, payroll, letters and so on. 1986 The company closed down, so you can't find it if you leave the company to fend for yourself. The last search proves that it belongs to the original unit. I found the work permit (83 years), the inventory list (86 years), the family planning certificate (89 years) and the check-out contract certificate, and the unit did not have the housing certificate, so I linked this period of service. During this period, the length of service lost a lot, and the insurance was paid according to the facts 93 years ago. There is no reason as long as the file is not processed at all.

As long as you were a state-owned or large-scale collective enterprise. If it goes bankrupt now, the original unit will be gone. Go to the local archives and check with your ID card. Print it out and the archives will stamp it for you. The social security department will approve it. If the original unit is restructured, the file will be saved. Check the copy, and the unit can seal it. If the company uploads files, you can do it according to the above. Actually, it's very convenient My colleagues have worked in two companies now. All went bankrupt, found in the file, and approved by the social security department, and successfully completed the retirement procedures.

If you're really working. It is the business of the unit not to pay wages. Because the payroll has never been personally kept. You boldly fight against those who ignore the interests of employees, deliberately embarrass employees and hurt them. You only respect the facts, don't be afraid of their bluff. If you don't solve it, complain to the competent department. Protecting personal interests according to law is the correct way to solve the problem.

Under normal circumstances, when going through retirement procedures, you should first check the filling age of personal files (regardless of the age of ID card), and inquire about recruitment forms, dispatch cards, check-in time (too long time from recruitment to check-in will deduct the length of service), salary grading, and adjustment of work order. As long as the file is not out of touch, it will continue until social security payment and retirement, without any proof of payroll.

Then, the situation in the problem is not without. This is aimed at individuals in special types of work groups. If the post personnel of special types of work start from changing jobs, there are records and work records. When transferring from a special type of work, the time is clear, which is in line with the working years of the special type of work. Generally speaking, they usually apply for early retirement.

Self-reported is a special type of work, and it is basically impossible to give you early retirement, but the enterprise has not filed with the labor bureau. There are some transfer-out work orders in the files of individual special posts, but the time of transfer-out of special posts is not clear, so you can't deny your special post experience, but you can't determine your working years. Then, you have to go back to the original unit to find the team salary book at that time. There is a column of "health care allowance" in the salary, and you should make one every year 1 and February 12. Only such original evidence can confirm your work experience in a special type of work, and the new certificate will be invalid. If you can't get this salary base book because of the company's reasons, you can only admit that you are unlucky, and the retirement window can't give you the recognition of early retirement for special jobs, so you really can't retire early.

It is rare for some small state-owned enterprises to lose their original payslips because they are kept as permanent files. For example, our state-owned enterprises were restructured in 2005, and today in 2020, they can still go back to the background to stamp the official seal of a certain material when necessary. In the early 1980s, we could still find the payroll including temporary workers (I helped my friend to handle it a few years ago), which shows that this payroll file has been kept as a permanent file for 40 years.

For the file that needs salary, it is only for the consideration of whether the working years of special types of work can be retired early, which has no effect on your working years. The deemed payment period continues from the recruitment form to the actual payment of social security. If the file is out of service for several years or lacks a recruitment form, it will not be so simple. Only by acknowledging these working years when you go through the formalities can you handle these things for you. The retirement approval form is also signed by you, and then submitted for approval.

Go find the file. If not, complain to the social security department.