On the evening of February 8th, Beijing time, in the program "Football 100 Minutes" of Beijing TV, host Wei Yidong, football commentator Liang Yan, former Guoan player Wang Changqing and others had a heated discussion about Luneng's disqualification from the AFC Champions League. The guests bluntly said that this was caused by Luneng's negligence and mistakes, which showed that it was unprofessional and learned a lot.
Wei Yidong, the host, later said, "We don't know why it was in arrears, but it did go through the arbitration of the International Sports Court, and the teaching assistant won the case, but there was a share conversion from Luneng Group to Shandong Lv Wen Group. Is it possible that there was no clear handover between the former owner and the current owner? There must be a mistake, and there is not much money. " Liang Yan added, "It was an accident, and there was no story."
Wang Changqing said, "Once again, we are not very professional. We may not know the details, but the AFC Champions League tickets let us know that although it is a competition, the rules must be observed. As long as the rules are formulated, everyone must seriously abide by the rules in order to do a good job in the league. "
Wei Yidong finally concluded, "Because of an oversight, it may cost hundreds of thousands and lose the hard-won AFC Champions League qualification, which not only wastes Luneng's efforts in the league and FA Cup, but also has a very bad influence, because losing AFC Champions League qualification is a big lesson."
Briefly talk about the cause and effect
1 and 20 17, Luneng fired Magat's team.
2. A coach in the team didn't get 500,000 euros and asked Luneng for it. Luneng believed that the contract was signed by Luneng and Magat, and then Magat found the coach. So this coach should ask Magat for money, not Luneng. So, ignore him.
3. The coach sued FIFA and asked Luneng to give money. FIFA asked Luneng to provide evidence. Luneng didn't take it seriously and didn't submit anything. Therefore, FIFA ruled that Luneng lost the case. Then send letters to China Football Association and Luneng, and give 10 days to appeal.
4. Luneng still didn't respond. 10 day arrived, Luneng did not appeal. The verdict came into effect.
Luneng still didn't respond after the judgment came into effect, and didn't pay 500,000 euros to the coach within the specified time.
6. FIFA sent a letter to AFC, demanding that Luneng be sanctioned according to its articles of association. The AFC checked the articles of association and the punishment was to cancel Luneng's AFC Champions League qualification. Then, in the middle of 1 month, China Football Association was informed orally first, and China Football Association was asked to study who would be the substitute.
7. At this time, Luneng was in a hurry and quickly called the coach with great interest. But it's too late. The fact of violation already exists, and it was officially punished today.
What mistake did Shandong Luneng make when he was disqualified from the AFC Champions League?
When Luneng hired Magat team in 20 17, an analyst coach in the team was also hired by Magat. The coach was very unfriendly to China athletes and said a lot of unfriendly words. But it was also hired by Magat, involving a salary of 500,000 euros. The two sides have problems in understanding and have not reached an agreement. Luneng believed that the contract was signed by Luneng and Magat, and then Magat found the coach. So this coach should ask Magat for money, not Luneng. Magat doesn't think so. The salary of teaching assistants should be paid by Luneng. The two sides have not yet reached an agreement on this.
Later, the coach sued FIFA, and FIFA ruled Luneng lose the case. Then Luneng should pay these wages. Luneng didn't. As a result, it violated the rules of FIFA, and the AFC cancelled Luneng's right to participate in the AFC Champions League. Such a mistake is really inappropriate and naive.
You know, if you don't accept it, you can sue through legal means, and you shouldn't rely on it. As long as a lawsuit is filed, the AFC has no reason to cancel its AFC Champions League qualification. Because the conclusion didn't come out. However, neither prosecution nor payment, just like Lao Lai, is too amateur and unlike football clubs or football clubs run by state-owned enterprises. Poor legal awareness and weak image awareness.
This should be caused by Luneng's mistake. During the 20 18 season, a data analyst in the team of head coach Magat went on holiday without the consent of the club. The club punished him, and as a result, the gentleman simply did not come back.
Luneng management, who became angry from embarrassment, removed him from the list according to the contract. It is said that Luneng is right. It is estimated that some details of this matter have not been handled properly. For example, the analyst's salary before being removed from the list has not been paid off or other funds. Anyway, the teaching assistants sued FIFA and AFC, which led to the AFC's heavy penalty. 202 1 was disqualified from AFC Champions League.
(It is this guy named Kevin who sued Luneng. Image from Red Star News)
As for the FA Cup, it's nothing. First, this punishment was made by the AFC, and it does not affect the honor won by domestic leagues. Second, not participating in the AFC Champions League is not necessarily a bad thing for Taishan team. If you concentrate and go all out to play the league, you may get the long-lost Vulcan Cup, but it will be a good thing.
Besides, it's not completely over yet. Luneng did not communicate with AFC's punishment in advance. According to the relevant rules of the AFC, Luneng still has a ten-day presentation period, which depends on Luneng's public relations ability and the coordination ability of the Football Association. After all, punishing Luneng will not look good on the face of China Football Association.
But no matter how it ends, whether Luneng can finally participate in the AFC Champions League or not, this low-level mistake of not being familiar with FIFA rules has reminded other clubs that we should be familiar with and master the rules of FIFA and AFC at ordinary times, not just feel reasonable, and all operations should be carried out according to the rules, so that our club management and operation will be more professional and standardized and will not cause jokes in international football.
First of all, the FA Cup definitely didn't come for nothing. Getting the FA Cup proves that Shandong Luneng has the strength to win the FA Cup! It also proves the strength of entering the AFC Champions League!
Secondly, why was Shandong Luneng Research cancelled? I think there is a detail here that has been carefully examined. Is there any communication between AFC and Shandong team? This question seems unimportant. In my opinion, this detail is enough to determine the direction of the situation!
However, Ma Dexing said: "Almost a month ago, the AFC wrote to the China Football Association and Shandong, asking the club to deal with this matter as soon as possible." And Ma Dexing also hinted that some people don't seek professional solutions, but spend money to solve them quietly.
Imagine two such scenarios.
First, the leader declared that you were fired directly in the company without informing you first!
Second, the leader informed you a month ago, even your parents. Said that the employee needs to correct some aspects so as not to affect the company's work. Then, you and your parents didn't pay attention to it, but perfunctory leadership in a roundabout way. The leader announced that you were fired.
How do these two possibilities make me feel? The first possibility is that the leadership is arbitrary. The second is more because of the slack of employees and their families.
The two possibilities are completely different in how to interpret the final event.
If that's what Ma Dexing said, then I think the Shandong team is a little dangerous. If it is true that the AFC suddenly issued a document, then I believe that the club may find a chance to turn over.
The Taishan team still has ten days to appeal. I think this incident, after all, is aimed at China football, and other Chinese Super League teams should not gloat. Mute eating coptis may one day fall on other super league teams.
I think it's time to test Shandong Taishan and China Football Association!
Only today did I notice that Shandong Luneng was disqualified from the AFC Champions League. This incident is probably the most exciting news in China football around the Spring Festival, and there is no one.
Luneng was disqualified from the AFC Champions League and became a hot spot.
While expressing consternation, many netizens also mocked Shandong Luneng, who had been busy for a season and kicked the FA Cup in vain. Some netizens also said that Beijing Guoan and Shanghai Shanghai got a big bargain, one got the qualification to enter the AFC Champions League directly, and the other got the qualification to play the play-offs. This is the future trend.
As for Shandong Luneng, why did it fall into such an embarrassing situation? At present, it depends on Ma Dexing, deputy editor-in-chief of titan sports.
Ma Dexing released a document "Jie Yuan Zhen"
Shandong Luneng has a contract dispute with one of its former foreign teachers (Kevin Stotz, the teaching assistant of Magat Team).
Specifically, Shandong Luneng "didn't send a sum of money to foreign teachers", but in this matter, Shandong Luneng Club and China Football Association have their own understanding and knowledge, and they are accused of not responding positively or having a positive attitude to solve the problem.
According to Ma Dexing, the AFC informed the China Football Association and Shandong Luneng about this matter as early as one month ago, but this matter "did not attract the attention of Shandong Luneng and China Football Association".
Luneng Football Association Cup wins
So in the view of China Football Association and Shandong Luneng, this matter is not too serious. The AFC didn't have a clear opinion in the end, and then suddenly this news came today. Maybe not only China fans, but also China Football Association and Shandong Luneng were stunned.
Luneng is so disappointed.
Through this incident, it is indeed possible for us to find that Shandong Luneng and China Football Association, which are famous in China football, really lack a lot of things when communicating with the outside world, which is an improvement for tuition fees.
I hope this incident can teach China Football Association, Shandong Luneng and other clubs a profound lesson.
(author: Yan zi. Welcome to interactive communication. )
The reason is that there were foreign coaches involved in the Magat period. His name should be Kevin. Probably because Kevin violated the rules of the team many times and was punished many times, and then applied to the Football Association for arbitration to terminate the contract.
Then the details of the contract have not been negotiated with the foreign coach. Therefore, Shandong Luneng Club violated the access rules of overdue payables in the AFC Club Access Rules. Therefore, the AFC intervened in the incident and finally made a punishment. However, the result is not necessarily conclusive. Shandong Taishan team still has the opportunity to appeal after Wenlv took over. Therefore, there is still a certain chance for Shandong Taishan team to participate in the AFC Champions League 202 1, but the chance is relatively small. Then once Taishan team is disqualified from the AFC Champions League, it is certain that Shanghai team will enter the AFC Champions League as a substitute. Because the epidemic situation and AFC Champions League schedule conflict with the Super League schedule to a certain extent, the team must choose between them. Compared with the whole of Asia, the strength of Mount Tai in Shandong is not too outstanding. Therefore, striving for the AFC Champions League may not be able to achieve good results, but when we can just take this opportunity to compete for the AFC Champions League among other strong teams in the Super League, Shandong Taishan Team can take the opportunity to compete for the league title, breaking the embarrassing situation that Luneng 1 1 year did not get their hands on the league title. At present, there is still no official response from the club. I hope the club will actively deal with this matter and give the fans an explanation.
What is the significance of this AFC Champions League? What's wrong with not participating in the AFC Champions League? Kicking around in China will be over. What are the rules of AFC Champions League? Tell AFC Champions to fuck off. If you don't have any fucking connection with AFC Champions League, you are still a giant in China!
The unprofessional handling of a teaching assistant's violation of the rules has led to the serious consequences of being disqualified from the AFC, which is enough to show that we are still a rookie in the industry. Luneng can appeal, but there is little hope that the AFC will withdraw its handling opinions. Since the reform, we have made great achievements in integrating with the world economy, but we have never learned from the failure of management and foreign exchanges, and so has the professional management of football clubs. ...
Originated from the lawsuit of a teaching assistant and Luneng during Magat's teaching period. Luneng lost the case, but it was not implemented. The Football Association is still working hard, and Shandong Taishan has not been officially announced, but there is little hope.