Of course, there are also great differences. First, they fought under different flags. Nurhachi founded the country alone, and An Lushan's slogan was "Jun Qing side". Secondly, Nurhachi carried out the Eight Banners system with the nature of ethnic segregation, which made the subjectivity of the Ming and Qing Dynasties war qualitatively become a national war. The main nature of "An Shi Rebellion" is still the counter-insurgency war of the Central Plains Empire to suppress the rebels.
Former Ming Dynasty Dragon and Tiger General, Later Jin Han: Nurhachi
After the establishment of the Qing Dynasty, the descendants of Nurhachi wantonly deleted the history books of the Ming Dynasty, obliterating the fact that their ancestors had been vassals of the Ming Dynasty for more than 200 years.
In fact, the Jianzhou Jurchen Department, which was born in Nurhachi, originated from Tungusic people in the primitive jungle in central Siberia and north of Lake Baikal. One of them moved south to the Heilongjiang River valley, merged with the local primitive tribes, and established the Nuzhen of the Jin Dynasty, calling it "Huligai", but did not admit to being his own kin.
Tungus
After the collapse of the Jin Dynasty, during the Mongolian rule, these "Huligai people" went south along the Songhua River to the area near North Korea in eastern Jilin, where they merged with the local Jurchen tribe to establish the Jurchen Department.
From the Yongle period of the Ming Dynasty, the Jurchen Department of Jianzhou was the chieftain of the Ming Dynasty, and its leader inherited the duties of governor of Jianzhou Wei, Jianzhou and Jianzhou Youwei in the Ming Dynasty, and was under the jurisdiction of Liaodong Governor. These people were canonized by the Ming court, received letters, sealed their clothes, promoted their official titles, changed their documents, and moved to live in pastoral areas, all of which must be reported to the Ming court for approval; Its army obeyed the conscription of the Ming court; Leaders at all levels pay tribute to the capital every year.
The word "China" has been synonymous with the China dynasty since ancient times. Song people call themselves "China" and Song people call themselves "China people". The Ming people also called themselves "China" and the Ming people called themselves "China people". The whole northeast, including the ministries of Jurchen, was also the undisputed territory of the Ming Dynasty at that time. It was not a "dowry" brought to China by the Qing Dynasty's entry into the customs, as the adherents of the Qing Dynasty boasted.
Before Nurhachi rose up against the Ming Dynasty, he was not only the commander-in-chief of the left-back in the Ming Dynasty, but also won the trust of Li, the company commander in Liaodong at that time. He served as an officer of the border guards of the Ming Dynasty for decades, held an important position, was a second-class general of the Ming Dynasty, and paid tribute to Beijing many times. He stood up and rebelled, which was tantamount to treason. Nurhachi's "Post-Jin Kingdom" and later Huang Taiji's "Manchu Empire", as well as the war of the Ming Dynasty, are of course the new country established by traitors and the war of aggression against the Ming Empire.
Manchu emperor: Huang taiji
In addition, Nuerhachi and Huang Taiji also practiced the system of ethnic segregation, and settled Nuzhen, Mongolia and some Han people in Liaodong to form the Eight Banners, which were collectively called "Banners", and gradually formed a new ethnic group "Manchuria", which was different from the Han people in the Ming Dynasty, so the Ming and Qing Wars also had the nature of "Manchuria" and Han people's national wars.
After 1644 entered the customs, the Manchu Empire recognized the Ming Dynasty as the former dynasty and claimed to inherit its legal system, claiming to be the inheritor of the Han, Tang, Song and Ming Dynasties. After 1662 basically wiped out the Ming Dynasty, and 1683 wiped out the last remnants of the Ming Dynasty, China's political power was completely seized.
Therefore, although the Manchu Dynasty was dark, autocratic and sinful, and oppressed the Han nationality, most historians and the public recognized it as the last feudal dynasty in China. Nurhachi and his descendants, the emperors of the Qing Dynasty, will never deny that they are historical figures in ancient China.