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Debate: Should parents send them to nursing homes?
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Thank you, Chairman. Hello.

With the progress of the times, the change of social structure has led to great changes in the way of staying at home. With the trend of family miniaturization, especially the continuous emergence of 42 1 families, the traditional family pension model can no longer meet the needs of modern people. Therefore, the society should provide diversified options for providing for the aged. Sending the elderly to nursing homes means that the government or children send them to nursing homes to spend their old age according to their wishes. It can be seen that the nursing home is a new way of providing for the aged under the background of diversified pension mode.

We agree to send the elderly to nursing homes for three reasons:

First, it is an important means for the government to send lonely old people who have no children or daughters, or embarrassed old people whose children are unable to support them for various reasons, to ensure the elderly to enjoy their old age.

Second: under the condition of certain financial resources, nursing homes are more professional in life care. Facing the elderly who usually suffer from chronic diseases, nursing homes can provide them with more professional and better care. In terms of spiritual comfort, children's filial piety will not be reduced because of the change of their parents' residence. At the same time, the elderly in nursing homes get together at the same age and share the same interests, which increases social interaction, expands social interaction and adds more fun and laughter to life.

Thirdly, from the social point of view, the recognition and acceptance of nursing homes reflects the trend of socialization of nursing homes and embodies the new concept of filial piety culture. From the ethical point of view, the concept of filial piety should be inherited and spread, so the form of filial piety can be changed. However, the spiritual core that makes the elderly healthy and peaceful cannot be changed. Yesterday, the old people contributed their life's energy to the progress and development of society. Today, when they are old enough to enter the twilight of their lives, the younger generation has the responsibility to support them as much as possible. This is not only the legal obligation of children to their parents, but also the general social responsibility of the younger generation to the older generation. In fact, the concept of filial piety can only reflect personal virtue and accomplishment, and the universal understanding of filial piety in society is the civilization and progress of society. thank you

Against:

Thank you, the other party has unconsciously debated the issue of providing for the aged, and secretly preset two concepts for us:

First: modern people are too busy to take care of the elderly, so they are sent to nursing homes.

Second: nursing homes can look up to the sky, so everyone else agrees.

Is one of your many angles an old man's angle? Let's see if these two premises are really reasonable:

First of all, have you ever wondered why some parents go to nursing homes? Among the old people who agreed to go, 60% thought that their children had no time to take care of themselves, while 30% were actually afraid of causing trouble to their children. You can imagine the ambivalence of the old man. On the one hand, they don't want to leave home. On the other hand, they don't want to disturb their children. Old people have worked hard for their children all their lives, but can children be safely sent out? Is the deposit status of luxury cars really more important than our only parents? The tree wants to be quiet, but the wind will not stop. The son has to be raised, not with relatives. Being too busy is simply an excuse and a reason to add regret in the future.

Secondly, let's look at the nursing home. No matter how good its conditions are, it is still not a family, because psychology has proved that the spiritual comfort of the elderly mainly comes from two aspects: the first is the family, and the second is the family network. These two points are naturally lacking in nursing homes. There is no direct concern from children, no innocent smiling faces from grandchildren. Is it really what the elderly want?

Going to the nursing home again will destroy the inherent interpersonal network of the elderly. Old people will build a large group of friends in the places where they once lived. Going to a nursing home is tantamount to saying goodbye to these friends. What is the burden for the elderly with insufficient physical strength and cognitive ability? For example, pulling an old tree out of its original deep-rooted place and moving it to a new place in winter. Even if this new place is no matter how good, we say it is a kind of harm to the tree, because you cut off its roots, and even more because winter is not suitable for transplanting trees at all.

At the same time, in a place where the elderly may die at any time, the fragile and changeable elderly are easily affected by negative emotions, while the elderly at home are more likely to feel the sunshine and hope of their children and grandchildren living around their knees and neighbors, which is why the survey shows that the incidence of depression among the elderly in nursing homes is higher than that at home.

Thirdly, in fact, we also advocate the combination of social pension and home-based pension, but the model of nursing home should never be the first choice. At present, the community home-based care model developed vigorously in Beijing is worth learning. All kinds of workers come to take care of the diet and daily life of the elderly and share the pressure of their children. Moreover, community organizations such as the salon for the elderly encourage the elderly to carry out social activities, walk around and play chess and chat, and go home to enjoy family happiness. Isn't that more important?

So we are here to tell you that as long as you consider the psychological needs of the elderly with snacks, you will find that nursing homes are not the most suitable choice. Thank you.

Founder: Thank you. As another classmate said, changing the environment will have an impact on the elderly, but it is not as terrible as another classmate said. How can a son in the city support the elderly in the country?

Counterparty: The other debater said that it depends on whether the elderly are willing or not, so I asked, which gives the elderly a better feeling, nursing home or home-based care for the elderly?

Founder: Another classmate, actually, for filial children, a nursing home is home, and home is a nursing home. But for unfilial children, the nursing home is home, but home is a cage. Which do you think is better?

Against: How can a nursing home be a home? Home is not only a place with relatives, but also a place with three friends and four friends around. Do you have any friends in your nursing home?

Fang: What is home? Where are my parents and where are my concerns? This is home. This is why the parents who stay behind don't want to see their children support themselves, and which peasant brother who works outside the home doesn't want to go home to serve his parents, but life is always helpless. Shall we solve this problem realistically today?

Counterparty: Argument friend, you mean that you are now in CCTV and your parents' hearts are in CCTV, so CCTV is your home and your parents' home? I don't think the director of CCTV will agree with you. I also want to ask each other's friends. After investigation, 95% of the elderly in Hangzhou are unwilling to go to nursing homes. What's your reason?

Founder: But according to you, as long as you change the environment, the old people will not adapt. According to you, you can only come to the conclusion that children in our city can't afford to support the elderly in the countryside at all.

The opposing side: The opposing debater should answer our questions. There are so many old people in Hangzhou who don't want to go to nursing homes. At this time, you forcibly send them to a nursing home. Are you filial or unfilial? Is the old man happy or unhappy?

Founder: Actually, another student has many reasons. The dean of Beijing Yuyuantan Nursing Home said that in fact, many elderly people are still willing to come, but they are afraid of losing face. Is this caused by the disagreement of the other students?

Against: Your opponent, you mentioned the countryside repeatedly just now. I want to ask you where there is a nursing home in rural areas.

Professor: Don't you know, another debater? A large number of migrant workers in China have gone to work in cities. Nowadays, rural pension is a very serious social problem. Should it be solved?

Counterparty: We have to solve this problem. Excuse me, where are the old people from rural areas sent to nursing homes?

Founder: Let me give you an example. Now Tianjin is vigorously building rural nursing homes. Let me ask you this question again. Some old people have worked hard all their lives and have no children under their knees. If you don't send them to a nursing home, would you like to see them miserable in their later years?

Counterparty: Do you think this choice of going to a nursing home is the core of our discussion today? Why do so many old people in Hangzhou don't want to go?

Pro: I have answered the question that I don't want to go. The logic of defending friends is very strange. Those who have children are called old people, and those who have no children are not called old people. In fact, Zhengzhou gave us a very clear answer. They spent/kloc-0.5 million yuan to build a nursing home to support themselves. Why don't you agree?

Against: We have never said that nursing homes are unnecessary. It is precisely because they have no children, no attachments and no financial resources that our government has assumed this responsibility. But for those old people with children, do you think they would rather stay at home or in a nursing home? Please answer directly.

Founder: It depends on our parents' own choices. Do you mean that some parents really want to go to a nursing home today, but you won't let them?

Counterparty: As we argued, are parents really willing at this time? He's thinking about you, another debater. You just sent him to a nursing home after he was hypocritical. How can you stand another debater?

Pro: Well, let's see if our parents' wishes are good. We know some soldiers want to defend their country. At this time, do you want to consider your parents' wishes, whether to send him to a nursing home or to protect your country with the elderly?

Opposing party: So at this time, we can support the mother who defends the country, so please forgive me. A survey by scientific psychologists in China shows that the mental health level of the elderly in nursing homes is generally worse than that of the elderly at home. How to solve this?

In favor: The other side's second argument is correct. We hope that our family and society will support each other. Now nursing homes share some functions of providing for the aged. Is this good?

Opposing party: The opposing party argues that nursing homes represent the social pension system? Can you explain it to me?

Founder: Other students did not replace it, but obtained it in another way, so the military medal is half of them and half of our society. What did you say?/Sorry?

Opposite party: Your opponent, you just mentioned an example of a soldier. Do the parents of soldiers have relatives and friends in their hometown? Can't they help take care of the elderly? You must isolate him from his original environment and put him in a nursing home?

Founder: So many ways coexist. Now our government is willing to help them share some of it. Why not just ask for it?

Counterparty: We have admitted that many ways coexist, but what we are discussing today is whether this way is good or not. Please give a positive answer.

Founder: Well, you said we couldn't change the environment. Now we have a new type of nursing home, which is built directly in the community. The environment has not changed. Do you agree to send it in?

The fourth stage:

Counterparty: My opponent, you have been emphasizing some examples where there are no children or children are not around, so I want to ask you a direct answer. If you live in the same city as your parents, are you willing to send your parents to a nursing home?

Founder: When I came, my father called me. He told me that he would go to a nursing home when he was old. That was my father's choice, and of course I supported it.

Counterparty: Why did your father leave? We have already told you, because he didn't want to bother you. Can you send your father to a nursing home at this time according to his words? In fact, maybe he wants you to say: no, dad, I want to be with you. Don't you understand your father at all?

Founder: Another classmate, in fact, this is not the case. Because I have lived in a nursing home, I have more professional care. Of course, we can accompany his father when we quarrel, but when his father has a backache, he doesn't know whether he is a lumbar disc herniation or a cervical spinal canal stenosis. Isn't it good to apply more professional nursing?

Counterparty: Argument friend, does the old man really need professional care for his back pain? What he needs most is that his beloved son is by his side and says to him, "It's okay, Dad, let me help you rub it;" Opponent, did you throw this away?

Founder: But I don't know the reason of my father's back pain. What if I wipe it wrong?

Counterparty: So we said that there should be some people in our community who can help your father rub. You can also knock your father's leg when he rubs it for him. Isn't father happier?

Founder: For filial children, he will contact them no matter where their parents are, but for unfilial children, if you don't send them to a nursing home at home, he will leave them alone. Is this what you want?

Opposing party: Therefore, the opposing party defends the filial piety of friends, that is, when they are far away from their parents, they think about their parents in their hearts, but ignore their real needs. Can you agree with such filial piety?

Pro: Filial piety means that I love my parents wherever they are. This is filial piety.

Counterparty: But can parents feel your filial piety?

Zheng Fang: Then my parents are at home, so I will call him to contact his parents. Isn't he in a nursing home, and I won't call him parents if I call him?

Counterparty: Then why can't he be at home? You can call him and serve him in person.

Pro: another classmate, so in fact, both ways are possible, depending on how the old man chooses. Let's look at specific examples again, shall we? In fact, heart disease and cerebral thrombosis are common sudden diseases of the elderly. If it is not rescued in time, the consequences will be unimaginable. When they are sent to a nursing home, they will always be accompanied. What did you say?/Sorry?

Opposition: Of course, it is best to have professional nurses at home to take care of children who have learned some medical knowledge together, so that they can take care of both the heart and the body. Isn't this better than being sent to a nursing home?

Founder: When I am sent to a nursing home, can't I take care of my parents?

Counterparty: Then can't your family care more? It's even stranger for you to argue with each other. You said to let the old man choose for himself, but at this time I asked you if my grandmother would send it, and you said you could send it at home. What should I do? (The other party's time is up)

Founder: Another classmate said that he wanted to hire a professional nurse. Is it necessary to invite doctors, chefs, nannies and Filipino maids?

Founder: So we should let this diversity exist and let the elderly choose freely. Isn't that good?

Founder: Two old people in a nursing home in Nanjing recently got married. . . . . . Thank you (time is up)

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Thank you. Just now, the other classmate and the host mentioned "go home and have a look" I think if you are a filial child, we can always meet your parents at home or in a nursing home. But when I am away from my parents, if he can get better care in the nursing home, why don't we choose this way?

Another classmate told us repeatedly today that it's good to take care of the elderly at home. It's true. There is nothing wrong with this, but is it too absolute? Then why do we still say: Zhu Dexiao comes first, regardless of his heart?

Another classmate talked to us about home again and again today, but what is home? Is home a simple house? No, home is sincere care for the elderly, so where the elderly are, our care will naturally be there.

Another classmate talked to us repeatedly about filial piety today, but obviously filial piety is not a simple slogan, but a constant pursuit of a happy life for the elderly. So why should we easily deny such a pension model?

If space can really dilute family ties, why do we still have a saying: blood is thicker than water?

On the other hand, we saw Ms. Zhang Ailing, who died at home for six or seven days before being discovered. A generation of talented women died so tragically. Raising children to prevent old age, but there are always children who are unfilial, so in these unfilial families, the elderly can no longer feel the warmth of home. Why should other students block the warmth of society and make them more helpless?

On the contrary, we see that some children are really filial, but they can't stay with their parents all the time. If they leave in such a hurry, their parents may have a sudden illness without timely treatment, and this time they will be farewell. Children should be raised, not too close, and other students also mentioned it. Isn't this the greatest sorrow of our society?

In our society, there are always some wandering old people and some left-behind old people. For them, the night is bleak, and other students have to close the door of the nursing home. So when will the "widowed independence" proposed by the sages more than 2,000 years ago be realized?

It is precisely because we have seen the above that even a bystander will regret it, and for the old man who has entered the sunset, who is not afraid?

When China is rapidly entering an aging society, the problem of providing for the aged is becoming an urgent social problem, but another classmate told us that we can't be sent to a nursing home. Then I would like to ask: when our children want their parents to be taken care of more scientifically and meticulously, they dare not speak out for fear of criticism from others; when our parents want to enjoy the beauty of the sunset more practically, they dare not speak out easily for fear of leaving their children with an unfilial name. In that case, why did this happen?

It is precisely because some other students mistakenly believe that sending the elderly to the nursing home is to abandon the concept of unfilial, artificially creating communication barriers between parents and children, and artificially increasing the difficulty of providing for the elderly.

Our government and many people of insight have seen this, so they call for strengthening the construction of nursing homes to share the heavy responsibility of "supporting the elderly". (Time is up) Thank you.

Against:

Thank you, Madam President. Just now, another debater told the truth that it was a bit tricky to debate freely because he deliberately blurred three concepts for us:

The first concept: He said that the current pension mode is that home-based pension and nursing home pension can complement each other.

We admit that for the whole social group, the advantages of the two are indeed complementary, because there are always some people who have to accept nursing homes, so nursing homes are necessary for them; But when we consider our own examples, our own situation and how to provide for the elderly, can the two really complement each other?

Often we have only one choice, and we can only put the old man at home at one time, support him with our own hearts or send him to a nursing home. In this respect, the two are exclusive, so your opponent's complementary advantages may not be so complete.

The second example of the other debater's ambiguity is: Who is the old man they have been telling us today?

If today's debate is really aimed at those elderly people who have no children or whose children are not with them, such as soldiers, people who go out to work, and friends of the other side, I think it has really failed the main purpose of the British debate in our international university, because the government has a considerable obligation to support these childless elderly people and take good care of them. What's the point of discussing this topic?

What we should really discuss is: when children are around and the wishes of the elderly are so contradictory, what choices should we make to our hearts? This is the real focus of debate today. It's a pity that I only asked the other side to defend the friendship several times, and the defense friend of the other side just didn't dare to answer my question, just relying on some marginal examples. Another debater just mentioned the countryside. Do you know that rural etiquette is very particular about region and kinship? A family can have its own grandmother in front and aunt in the back. These people form a good network of mutual care and can achieve a good relationship of care. But what does the other debater mean? Is to drive him out of this rural kinship and put him in a nursing home to form your filial piety. The other debater, are you really filial?

Another debater, your vague third concept is filial piety. You just told me what filial piety is: as long as your heart is with the elderly, you are filial.

Another debater, I admit that you are filial at most, because it is judging what parents are thinking and what kind of filial piety parents need according to your own standards.

What is filial piety? Heart and parents together, people and parents together. When my parents need me, I can contribute my hands, my brain and my energy to take care of him.

Yes, we lack certain medical knowledge, but we can learn. There are some things that we may not be able to do by ourselves. We can ask a nurse to do it. We can learn when the nurse does it. We can learn from nurses and argue with each other. Isn't this process able to deepen the feelings between us and our parents and let her enjoy the care at home?

My opponent, if you remove these three vague concepts, I really don't know how your argument is supported.

Actually, as far as we are concerned, today's debate has a deeper topic. It's a pity that we can't argue with each other. Think it over. One premise of today's debate is that we are all too busy to care about our parents, but is it really necessary for us to be so busy?

For tomorrow's car, tomorrow's savings and tomorrow's mansion, we will send our parents to a nursing home. Is this really what we want to achieve? Thank you (time is up)

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