Legal party:

Opening statement of the debate:

Thank you, Chairman. Hello!

Peace is our eternal theme, but does social stability mainly depend on law or morality? Our point of view is to give priority to law, supplemented by morality, religion, customs and other means. The society we are talking about is a whole composed of people who live in it and are interrelated through a certain material basis. Therefore, people living in it can live normally according to a certain order, and the whole society can operate normally according to certain norms, which is considered stable. What is the law? Law is a code of conduct formulated by the legislature and guaranteed by state power. Morality is the norm and norm of people's common life and behavior, which is determined by people's subjective concept and does not have the unity and compulsion of law.

Next, we explain our views from three aspects: social stability mainly depends on the law.

First, before an event that is not conducive to stability occurs, the law plays a major role in restraining the occurrence of this unstable part.

A relatively stable society depends on both morality and law. Morality can distinguish good from evil, and can restrain deviance through public criticism and conscience condemnation, so we need morality. But in today's society, because people's moral level is generally not up to the realm of saints, once desire and morality conflict, we need a mandatory code of conduct, which is exactly what the law has. It is precisely because of the coercive power of the law that it has a powerful deterrent and plays an effective preventive role. This is particularly important under the premise that people's moral concepts are not enough to restrain people's criminal behavior. It can be seen that the role of law is more important than morality in maintaining social stability.

Second, even if unrest occurs, the law has played a major role in eliminating it. Law has mandatory effect, which is the fundamental reason why law and morality are rules, but their effects are different. The normative function of morality mainly depends on public opinion, personal belief, tradition and education. Obviously, this is a kind of soft constraint, which has no effect on the existing illegal and criminal acts. However, the law is not a scarecrow to scare birds. It uses "peaceful violence" to protect the people to live and work in peace and contentment, and truly achieves "spreading big letters all over the world". When fake wine, cigarettes, banknotes, counterfeit drugs and fake news "come true and become false", do you argue with your opponent by morality or law? When criminals are brought to justice by the state, when 3? When the 14 incident was suppressed by the state by law, we had to admit that society mainly depended on law. Third, in the process of maintaining social stability, when there is a conflict between law and morality, should we choose morality or law? This process of choice is the embodiment of importance. As we all know, everyone is equal before the law, and there is no distinction between rich and poor (thinker Rousseau said that "the law must be universal and applicable to all people within its command, because it is based on rationality"), and the ambiguity of morality makes it have differences in understanding, which in turn will affect the coordination of people's behavior. There are 10,000 Hamlets among 10,000 readers, with various concepts of right and wrong and various criteria for judging. Because of this different and unworkable understanding of morality, in today's society, when the public's morality conflicts with the law, they invariably choose the law firmly.

Of course, social stability depends not only on morality, but also on law. Law and morality perform their respective duties and complement each other. Only by giving priority to law, supplemented by morality, can we maintain social stability, sit down and talk about it, be immune to it and help the world!

Thank you all

Social stability depends mainly on law/morality.

Interpretation of Xinhua Dictionary

Diazepam 1① (life, situation, etc. ) is calm and normal; Stability: life ~ "emotion ~" social order ~. 2 stabilize: ~ people's hearts.

Society: an organic whole formed by people on the basis of the same material production activities and in accordance with certain behavioral norms. Form the foundation of society

These elements are natural environment, population and culture. Through the relations of production, various social relations are derived and a society is formed, which is controlled by certain behavioral norms.

Engage in activities that can make the society run normally and develop continuously.

Morality:

Take the evaluation of good and evil as the standard, and rely on the power of public opinion, traditional customs and people's inner beliefs to adjust the sum of the behavioral norms of people's relations. It runs through all aspects of social life, such as social morality, marriage and family morality, professional ethics and so on. By establishing certain standards of good and evil and codes of conduct, it restricts people's mutual relations and personal behaviors, regulates social relations, and plays a role in maintaining the normal order of social life together with the law. Sometimes it refers to moral quality or moral behavior.

Law:

Rules of conduct formulated by the legislature and guaranteed by state power. Law embodies the will of the ruling class and is one of the tools of class dictatorship.

Yan (the old word of law) should also be punished. As flat as water. From the water, those who can't touch directly go, go and realize. -"Shuo Wen"

Law, uniform distribution also. -"Shuo Wen"

Use torture to amend the law. -"easy? Meng "

Law, punishment also. So rape is forbidden. -"On Salt and Iron"? imperial edict

Therefore, if you can't govern the country, it will be chaotic and law-abiding will be reversed. -Lu Chunqiu? Check in

A country, if there are no ministers and wise men who can assist the king, will often be in danger of the collapse of its neighboring countries and the misfortunes from abroad. -Mencius? Gaozixia "

Virtue, the name inside and outside, is the virtue in the heart and the practice. -Zhou Li? Land official

Our materials

Another debater should not forget the story of Xu Ting. When the ATM spit out 1000 yuan, he didn't return the money to the bank with a receipt, and then he took out 1 71700 yuan from the ATM several times. The next day, he quickly fled Guangzhou. At this time, he didn't return it with this 1700 yuan.

It was when someone called him and said that the bank would sue him by law that he suddenly thought of returning the bank's money. Isn't this enough to show that law plays a greater role in social stability than morality?

Coincidentally, on June 65438+1October 1 1 this year, a major case of citizens looting 500,000 cash occurred in Taizhou. After the incident, the public security expert department tried to make the robbers repent morally. As a result, no one returned the stolen money. As a last resort, the public security expert department can only use legal means to force the detection and punishment, and then recover 3 1.73 million yuan in cash. The other debater also saw that in the face of such social problems, it didn't work at first, let alone maintain social stability. Obviously, the law can solve this contradiction well.

Engels' principle of * * * productism has specifically discussed the principles and conditions of * * * productism:

(1) Restrict private ownership with progressive taxes, impose high inheritance tax, and abolish the inheritance rights of collateral relatives (brothers, nephews, etc.). ) and compulsory bonds.

(2) gradually deprive land owners, factory owners, railway owners and ship owners of their property by means of national industrial competition and direct redemption with paper money.

(3) Confiscating the property of all exiles and rebels who oppose the majority.

(4) Organizing laborers in state farms, factories and workshops or letting proletarians find jobs will eliminate competition among workers and force existing factory owners to pay the same high wages as the state.

(5) Implement the same labor obligation system for all members of society until private ownership is completely abolished. Build an industrial army, especially in agriculture.

(6) Centralize the credit system and financial industry in the hands of the state through state banks with state capital. Cancel all private banks and bankers.

With the increase of state-owned capital and workers, more state-owned factories, workshops, railways and ships will be built, all wasteland will be reclaimed and the soil of cultivated land will be improved.

(8) All children receive education in state facilities from the moment they leave the care of their mothers, and the expenses are borne by the state. The combination of education and production.

(9) Building a mansion on state-owned land as a public residence of the citizens' commune. Citizens' communes will engage in industrial production and agricultural production, and will combine the advantages of urban and rural lifestyles to avoid their one-sidedness and shortcomings.

(10) Demolish all unsanitary and poorly built houses and urban areas.

(1 1) Children born in and out of wedlock enjoy equal inheritance rights.

(12) concentrate the transportation industry in the hands of the state.

Almost all of the above should be realized by law. This is just the material, you don't have to say it all.

I suddenly thought of a standard: how to judge what is primary and what is secondary? We can't just look at whether a thing is important or not, what are its advantages and disadvantages, because the other party said, "We don't deny the importance of law, and we don't ignore the role of law, but we think that morality plays a major role, and so many roles of law can only be used as an auxiliary." So I think the criterion of judgment should be: when there is a contradiction between law and morality, whoever abandons it must be secondary, and what we use must be primary.

Just as fish and bear's paw are more important, it is more difficult to have both, but if we can't have both, we will definitely abandon the less important and leave the important. Therefore, when law and morality cannot have both, it is more important to choose which one is reflected.

Our problem

Our problem

1. Why is there a saying of "getting rid of violence to be good", but there is no saying of "teaching violence to be good"? It just means that people's hearts can't be stable without getting rid of thugs! How can society be stable when people are unstable? What can be used to get rid of this thug? Do we have to rely on morality? Still depends on the law!

2. Our side: The other debater has always said that killing bad people should be viewed separately, saying that the purpose of killing is good, but its behavior is immoral.

So, the other debater thinks that no matter what the purpose of killing is, even if the purpose is good, it is immoral?

The other person may answer: you can say that.

We: Then I want to ask you why the law killed so many people. Is it immoral?

The other party may answer 2: No, judging morality and immorality depends on whether it is conducive to social stability, if it is conducive to social stability, it is moral, if it is not conducive to social stability, it is immoral.

Our side: OK, then I want to ask another defense friend ... (another question)

3. Our side: Debate friend, most of the unstable factors in today's society are caused by unfairness. We know that morality is class oriented. Do other debaters agree with this? Morality has a class nature, which is the original words in the textbook "Ideological and Moral Cultivation and Legal Basis" for freshmen.

Recipient: I agree, but @ #&; *^#……

Our side: that is to say, the morality of each class is different, and class conflict will inevitably lead to unfairness and instability. On the other hand, if we use morality to control this unfairness, it will only become more and more unfair and make society more and more unstable! {Then change the question}

In the future, the other party may say: This unfairness is caused by morality, so Xie Ling needs to be a bully, so it depends on morality to solve it.

We can only untie Ling if the same person wants to untie Ling. Otherwise, if you let him untie Ling, he will only tie Ling tighter! Just as there are still different classes and class contradictions in our society, if morality is allowed to maintain social stability now, I am afraid it will only make society more and more chaotic.

4.

Everyone should know Mr. Dong Guo! He treats others well everywhere, thinking that everyone is kind, but the result is moral punishment.

His kindness has also brought harm to society. Has everyone forgotten this story that has been told for hundreds of years?

If we can't answer each other's questions, we can: We: Since the other debater said so, I want to ask each other, what's your opinion?

What is the standard of social stability?

7. Which country in the world now has a society based on morality?

8.

In a free debate, the other side's question is:

1. Counterparty: The way of a university lies in virtue, in being close to the people, and in perfection. Since ancient times, China has been a country that attaches importance to the rule of virtue and educates people with morality.

Make people live and work in peace and contentment since ancient times. In ancient times, before there was a written code, people could live forever by virtue of the rule of virtue.

Therefore, we believe that rule by virtue precedes rule by law, and rule by virtue is more important than rule by law.

2. Opposite party: There are many role models in our life. They have lofty morality, just like Lei Feng, whose spirit has infected China people from generation to generation.

Can the opposing debater say that he has not played a very positive role in social stability?

As far as I know, some other defense friends volunteered to join Lei Feng's camp. Doesn't this explain our point of view?

Our side: It is because morality is so important that when we make society stable, we rely not only on the law, but mainly on the law.

At the same time, it is supplemented by morality. Please don't misunderstand our view that morality is useless.

3. The other party: It is inevitable that people's subjective feelings will be added in the process of law enforcement, and there will inevitably be errors, thus making completely different judgments on things.

Our side: the law will make mistakes in the process of implementation. As for morality, it will not be implemented at all, because it is afraid of making mistakes.

To take practical action, isn't this the practice of choking?

The other party: Who said that morality has not been implemented? Morality depends on public opinion. * @ # $% ... and so on.

Our side: the other debater said that morality depends on public opinion, so the other debater didn't realize that the absence of public opinion was subjective.

Embodiment, is it not more misleading than the law? Just like the Carrefour incident, those college students are freely expressing their views on France.

Dissatisfaction has created a wrong public opinion among them, which makes so many people think that suppressing Carrefour is patriotic.

This led to the Carrefour incident. -{Don't ask questions if it's a one-on-one attack and defense}-Didn't other defensive friends find it?

Is morality more misleading than law?

4.

1. Another debater said that the virtue of obeying the law is that the awareness of obeying the law is deeply rooted in the hearts of the people.

2.