Opposition: I'd rather cry in a BMW than laugh behind a bicycle.

Debate analysis:

Analysis of the other party:

3. My personal views on this debate are as follows:

1, this sentence should have a premise, such as sitting in a BMW crying that oil prices have gone up and laughing on a bicycle saying that you don't need to use oil. Of course, I know my opinion is one-sided and ridiculous ... but I think it should be reasonable. ..

Argument: The other debater knows that his point of view is one-sided and self-deprecating, and the truth is only a little. Then I tell you, he would rather cry in a BMW than laugh on a bicycle. From No.0627 If You Are the One, he expressed a girl's desire and pursuit of material life. You said this sentence on the premise. I don't deny it. Yes, his premise is that he said this sentence from the beginning. So, when you talk about crying in a BMW, the oil price rises, and laughing in a bicycle doesn't require oil consumption. First, it doesn't meet your needs. Thirdly, can I say that laughing on a bicycle is because I can still enjoy simple and pure things in this materialistic society?

2. As the opposing party, can the thing "the economic base determines the superstructure" be used?

Argument: the economic base determines the superstructure. I don't think the other debater knew what the superstructure was before asking this sentence. I tell you, the superstructure refers to the political, legal, religious, artistic, philosophical and other viewpoints based on the economy, as well as the political and legal systems adapted to these viewpoints. The economic base determines the superstructure, and the building reflects the economic base. The economic base refers to the material base, and the superstructure refers to the spiritual things.

Well, actually matter determines consciousness. On the surface, the material foundation of bicycles is not as good as that of BMW, but everyone has different definitions of material foundation, which means that the structure of bicycles is not worse than that of BMW.

In the debate, "crying" and "laughing" should be the key words. Does this reflect a kind of human values or the mainstream values of society?

Argument: First of all, crying is a verb to express an emotion. I can't understand how the other party can see that this is a kind of human values or the mainstream values of society.

This topic is obviously beneficial to the opposing side.

First of all, we should discuss the depth of this topic, not just BMW and bicycles.

BMW and bicycle represent different goals in life. Obviously, one is not easy to realize and the other is easy to realize. BMW, on the other hand, represents an unattainable pursuit. Compared with the life pursuit of "riding a bicycle and laughing", "BMW crying" certainly represents the attitude of unremitting efforts in life and the spirit of paying for the ideal.

Argument: Since the other party said that BMW and bicycle represent different pursuits of life, while BMW represents pursuits that are not easy to achieve, what I want to say is that we can't measure the pursuit of life with money, nor can we say that the price difference between BMW and bicycle is simple. Sitting behind a bicycle and laughing is a relaxed pursuit.

There are two understandings of crying. One is to punch a swollen face and fill a fat man, which is nothing but a treasure. This is not good for each other.

Another understanding is that in order to achieve the goal of life, I would rather endure the pain that others can't bear. This is beneficial to each other.

Counterparty: As we have said, we cannot simply use their price difference to measure the meaning of life they represent. Since the price difference you said can't represent the meaning of life, please tell me, dear opponent, what performance did you make you endure the unbearable pain of others when you pursued BMW's life goals?

On the surface, the positive side focuses on spiritual pursuit, while the negative side focuses on material pursuit.

Then continue to analyze the following questions:

1, cycling has a material basis, not without it;

2, there is already a BMW, not the pursuit of material, but the material has been obtained;

Against: My opponent, I think you are a little off our debate. Today, you would rather cry in a BMW, that is, it doesn't matter if you can sit in a BMW. Then you are still pursuing the essence of BMW, not what you have already got.

In this way, there will be a result: the positive is a little material+spirit, and the negative is material. What we want to compare is this thing.

So how do small matter+spirit compare with matter?

What is the purpose of analyzing material pursuit?

People who pursue material things for the sake of material things are either psychopaths or misers. Whether it is the pursuit of basic material or advanced material, the ultimate goal is spiritual pursuit. Then, with the basic material security, you have already laughed, so why pursue crying? (positive view)

Laughing is better than crying.

Never mind why the other person is crying, because he pursued BMW and lost others, or because BMW didn't want it. As long as you catch one thing and cry, it is the most fundamental thing to measure what he wants most in his life. And this square, whether it has basic material, happy smile, or desperate, brilliant flowers and smiles, or something else. A smile is enough.

Although the argument of the opposing side is realistic, the playing style of the positive side must be more realistic. Just hold on and laugh and cry. As for BMW, don't worry about it.

BMW doesn't have to represent material pursuit. Compared with riding, it is just synonymous with higher pursuit of goals.

Argument: Since the other party said that BMW does not necessarily represent material pursuit, it is just synonymous with higher pursuit of goals. What you say is uncertain, which means there is still certainty, but you are not sure. This is one of them. Secondly, there must be a premise to define everything. So, my opponent, what is the premise for you to define BMW as a synonym for pursuing higher goals?

Is it a spiritual pursuit for a person who pursues his ideals unremittingly, such as becoming a host?

Zhang wants to be a host of CCTV. If someone says to him, "Why bother? Too tired. " Then Zhang Can said, "I'd rather cry in a BMW than laugh on a bike." This sentence represents Zhang's determination to endure suffering in order to realize his ideal. BMW doesn't just represent material pursuit here.

Argument: Since you insist on deepening BMW and bicycles into ideal pursuits, we have no objection, but the other debater has said so much, I just want to ask, do you have any evidence to prove that the pursuit of ideal pursuits represented by BMW must endure more pain than that represented by bicycles?

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Another debater didn't deny the importance of matter, so I won't reiterate the primacy of matter.

Everyone knows that people have ideals and goals, and cyclists never want to get on a BMW one day. It's not that I don't want to, but that I can't. To put it bluntly, this is called helplessness.

How long can the smile on the bike last? You can laugh at any time when you get off the bike, because the economic strength corresponding to the bike will obviously cause many contradictions and problems. If you can still smile when difficulties come, even if you let her ride a bike, she will still cry for you.

I wonder if you have heard of the happiness index? This is an index to measure the happiness/satisfaction of people's lives in various regions; If you smile happily, then your smile is directly proportional to your economic strength (you can check the specific data yourself), so riding a BMW is easier to get happiness than riding a bike.

"Thinking determines the way out"! ! ! Many people have heard this sentence, but they forget it in an instant. Different choices determine different fates, and different ideas determine different ways out!

What you would rather do than what you don't want to do refers to the choice made after weighing the interests.

Bicycles are more environmentally friendly than BMW cars, and exhaust gas can't be discharged if you want.

Marriage cannot be measured by money, and love is not economics. In the materialistic era, there is also a tacit understanding between the love with accelerated heartbeat and the unity of mind. If you give extra points to these standards according to the requirements of the times, you may get a talent of 1 point, a look of 5 points, a car of 10 points, a house of 50 points ... and a perfect score if you have love.

It can surpass the standards of marriage and mate selection, and become a typical expression of the values and lifestyle of contemporary China people, and its information content is quite rich.

Omitting this process directly leads to the result of luxury enjoyment. Just like today's popular travel novels, the ugly duckling and Cinderella with low status travel directly to the Qing Dynasty, becoming princesses and being conquered. This idea is probably the projection of many girls' desires today: but you should know that the ideal is full and the reality is very skinny. This BMW is not your own, not the result of your own struggle, but a gift from others (maybe the ownership is theirs). In other words, the luxury life that many contemporary girls yearn for is not self-sufficiency, but dependence on others. She is a parasite. Even if you are sitting on a BMW with tears in your face, you are willing to pursue infinite material scenery, but is it really what we need with a glittering appearance and a miserable inner wind?

Because I believe that if he is a potential stock, these things will come sooner or later. If you really love him, you won't care too much about these material things.

Values are most concentrated in our understanding of "a better life". A good life is a valuable life. Petofi said in a poem, "Life is precious, but love is more expensive. If you are free, you can throw both. " This poem embodies the poet's understanding of "good life": love is higher than life, and freedom is higher than love. Ostrovsky wrote how steel was tempered. The hero of the famous saying: "Life is the most precious thing for a person, and life is only once for a person. Therefore, a person's life should be spent like this: looking back, he will not regret wasting his time, nor will he be ashamed of being mediocre; In this way, when he dies, he can say that I have devoted my life and all my energy to the most precious cause in life-the struggle for the liberation of mankind. " Yes, everyone has a different understanding of valuable life, which is understandable.

In fact, what surprises me most is not that there are so many people who worship money, but that the values of money worship can be spoken openly and can be unimpeded and invincible in the field of public discourse. The person who said this was not ashamed but proud. This is the most terrible thing, and it is the most thrilling representation of the confusion of values. Money worship was popular in many times in history, and there was a phenomenon that the poor did not love the rich. However, in the public discourse space, money worship is openly advocated.

Such times are rare, but it's a pity that we are like this today. Not only have people's inner values been completely reversed, but also the ethical bottom line of public discourse that sympathizes with the weak no longer exists. When the field of public discourse is also occupied by money worship, our public space is not a space where the poor can reason, but a space where the weak can get justice and provide opportunities for appeal, but a space where the strong can talk to the weak violently and the strong can humiliate the weak. The strong attack the weak not only politically and economically, but also in the discourse space. The weak are humiliated not only in real space, but also in discourse space. This is a rare fallacy in history. Why did it win? Why are statements that violate the moral bottom line openly unimpeded in public space? After careful analysis, we will find that the fallacy does not conform to the principle on paper, but it conforms to the fact. Mano is a girl who sees the reality too early, just telling everyone what the reality is. Maybe she said something very frank that made people feel uncomfortable at first sight, but think about it carefully. What he said is true, isn't it? She faces the society with the truest side.

Mano is frank enough. Sometimes her words may be too direct and hurt people directly. It is said that an honest money worshipper is better than a hypocritical one, so we should sympathize with the former. I think this is also a way for her to protect herself after she realizes this society, but what is the logic? This is worse than bad logic. We should clearly realize that if everyone compares the bad with the bad, our society and our morality will only get worse and worse. Conscience can't grow in a bad process, but die in a bad process.

Because of money, people are becoming more and more realistic. The development of the Internet has made people no longer ignorant, opened their eyes and promoted people's higher desires. People used to be afraid of poverty, but now they have the ability to change, which is why they have everything today. . . . . . It is the product of spiritual emptiness and boredom!

Money is not everything, but it is the best and most practical to earn money by yourself.

"I'd rather cry on a BMW than laugh on a bike!" It is the result of greed for fame and fortune, not human nature, but greed.

You can't live without it, otherwise you can't survive. But don't go to extremes.

Your own destiny is completely in the hands of others,,, The future is sad,,,

It is understandable to pursue a better and richer life.

Willing to sell your behavior for money, objectifying your personal value, will never end in tragedy.

Philosophically speaking, living people are different from animals. They can't live simply for material things and can't lose their minds.

Used for:

1 It is said that there is no ugliness in turning people into dust, and there is no wealth and poverty in the tomb of Beimang. After all, it is just a grain of dust. Would you please explain the meaning of this sentence to your opponent?

In the modern standard of mate selection, what proportion does money occupy in feelings?

3) Are you willing to get married naked with someone who has nothing but really loves you? )

In your opinion, did love really lose to material things?

In your opinion, can love be measured by the amount of money?

Is there a difference in the amount of 6 yuan?

So you define love by price difference?

Do you think there are high and low levels of love?

Do you think love is high or low?

You really love someone, do you want her to cry or laugh?

Are men with money, houses and cars aristocrats?

Is BMW love the love you need?

Will the so-called BMW love last?

9 What sustains BMW's long-term love?

10 According to your BMW love, if one day Zhang Huali's face is gone, what can support a long-term BMW love?

1 1 according to your point of view, what do you think of many contemporary people who prefer to enjoy their material success and live a ready-made luxury life?

12 Do people who cry in a BMW cry because of material things?

13 will she cry for mental reasons? Simply put, crying for your personal dignity?

14 since this woman still cries when she has a BMW, does it mean that she has not lost her need for dignity and spirit?

15 in your opinion, are these spiritual things less important than material enjoyment?

16 since you don't deny this view, does it mean that this woman has not lost her rational and analytical abilities? Her choice is not passive, forced or deceived, but voluntary, conscious and clear?

17 that is to say, she knows the advantages and disadvantages of these two choices, and would rather choose the price of material enjoyment and lose her dignity?

18 is this conscious wrong-choosing behavior actually a very common phenomenon in China today?

19 So you think people have no ability to judge right and wrong, but only the courage to insist on "yes" (truth) and "good" (value)?

So people in contemporary China basically don't have the courage to insist on "truth" and "goodness"?

2 1 Do you think a country will prosper if its citizens don't even have the courage to stick to "truth" and "good" (value)?