Chen Ming was interviewed by The Paper.

Panic, at a loss, never thought about it.

When Chen Ming saw the Weibo hot searches for "Chen Ming gods fighting" and "Chen Ming conferring gods" sent to him by his friends, he was a little panicked. Halfway through the competition, he became the most brilliant contestant of this season of "Qi Pa Shuo". Colleagues from the program team counted the hot searches on Weibo after each episode, picked out the positive entries related to him, and found out how many hot searches there were. No matter how long he searched, they would all be sent to him. He never knew how to deal with these congratulatory WeChat messages. The same feeling happened at the end of the fifth season finale of "Qi Pa Shuo", accompanied by a sky full of confetti congratulating him on becoming the "BB King".

Chen Ming liked Fu Seoul's joking praise even more - Chen Ming was so greasy that people couldn't help but like it. With the derogatory attribution of "greasy", he was finally able to convince himself to accept the compliment.

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From the first time he appeared on "Qi Pa Shuo" to becoming the champion, Chen Ming experienced five seasons of competition, entering the semi-finals once and the finals twice. In last year's finals, he lost to Xiao Xiao, who was at his peak. As a debater, Chen Ming recognized Xiao Xiao's ability from the bottom of his heart. This was a fact he and Zhou Xuanyi recognized when they first met Xiao Xiao. Zhou Xuanyi sighed to Chen Ming: " We are like a group of people who are studying airplanes. We are studying how to fly more smoothly and how to fly higher. After meeting Xiao Xiao, we realized that some people are born as birds." Chen Ming fully recognized this evaluation. Very impressed.

Even among a group of people who study aircraft, Chen Ming has never stood out from the rest. Famous domestic debaters have participated in "Qi Pa Shuo" one after another. Each person's characteristics are fully demonstrated before and after this stage. Huang Zhizhong's aura is like a cheating contestant, Ma Weiwei has a lot of golden sentences, Qiu Chen has strong logic, and Yan Rujing gives vivid examples. These They are all labels that can be caught quickly within one or two issues, but Chen Ming doesn't seem to have that.

The only thing that was mentioned repeatedly was that the other debaters were teasing him with "Call for love in the center of the world" - no matter what the topic of the debate was or what position he held, when it came to Chen Ming, he would always He stood up politely, first with strict logical rebuttals, then with emotional examples, with positive appeals, and in the end, regardless of whether he won or lost the vote, he ended with a bow. This entire process has not changed so far, and even the ups and downs of status are rare.

In a sense, Chen Ming's victory also meant a counterattack.

At the celebration banquet after the end of this season, Ma Dong told the table full of old people that Chen Ming was able to win this championship because of the word "stable". "This means that no matter what happens to him, No matter what kind of debate topic he encounters, headwind or tailwind, no matter what kind of teammates he encounters are strong or weak, no matter what kind of opponent he encounters is strong, or no matter what kind of audience he encounters and the taste of the audience, no matter he encounters No matter what time period it was broadcast in the media environment, he forced himself not to fall behind in every aspect." Chen Ming remembered Ma Dong's words very clearly, and he admitted without hesitation, "I did. I'm not a talent type, I just work hard to make up for my shortcomings."

"Qi Pa Shuo" is not a reality show, and there are few cameras that deliberately record the contestants' off-stage performance, but there is a scene on the Internet where Chen Ming is in Xiao Xiao's team. A clip of him being a sparring partner for other players. His teammates took turns, and he took turns imitating everyone's imaginary opponent. The imitation show was very good, and he was almost a perfect sparring partner. Obviously, this was how Xiao Xiao quickly snatched Chen Ming from Ma Weiwei's team whenever he had the chance. Reason for leaving. But this also means that compared to other players, Chen Ming has to spend twice as much time preparing and practicing. People who are familiar with this program know that the competition system of this season is unprecedentedly intense, and the recording time is tight. Often capable players have to play two or three games a day. Strong players such as Huang Zhizhong and Qiu Chen sometimes cry out that they are tired during the game. Ma Weiwei even made mistakes, and Chen Ming, as the third debater, hardly ever showed signs of fatigue. Huang Zhizhong wrote on Weibo, "When Yan Rujing is in peak form and Chen Ming is in average form, there is a chance to win. But Chen Ming plays four games and only one will be in average form." The implication is almost Chen Ming in "Qi Pa Shuo" is described as a perpetual motion machine.

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"How could I not be tired? I was tired too. From the beginning to the end of the show, I only slept about three hours a day. Even the director who was following me was covered Teammates are forced to go home. Just rely on coffee or find a break for ten minutes."

Chen Ming does not show this kind of self-improvement easily. This season there is a meme that has been spread all over the Internet, "Fight of the Gods", which refers to the confrontation between Chen Ming and Zhan Qingyun. The debate question in this issue is whether to support the sharing of knowledge? Chen Ming and Zhan Qingyun both argued three times. In his discussion, Zhan Qingyun used the example of the physicist Kelvin announcing the completion of the building of physics at the end of the 19th century, but then the building was destroyed by the theory of relativity and quantum mechanics to illustrate his own knowledge** *Enjoyment will lead to monopoly and eliminate the argument of progress.

Zhan Qingyun

In the ensuing tit-for-tat opening session, in addition to arguing about the definition of knowledge, Chen Ming suddenly turned around and proposed the second half of the sentence: "There are still two people floating on the building." "A dark cloud" was covered up by Zhan Qingyun, thus making a desperate counterattack.

This minute of opening time is the highlight of this season. After the game, teammate Gao Qingyi said with emotion, if the full score of preparation is 100 points, and a strong player will prepare for 120 points, then Chen Ming will prepare for more than 500 points.

Gao Qingyi described Chen Ming as "prepared for more than 500 points"

"From this perspective, I may be pointing a way to many friends with mediocre qualifications in front of the camera. That is, you may not be able to stand out, but you can at least be stable through hard work. This word is something that all ordinary people can achieve." Facing this compliment, Chen Ming quickly brought the topic back. On to the “chicken soup” of hard work.

After the end of this period, calls for Chen Ming to win the championship gradually spread. But Chen Ming believes that this is not an accident. In fact, in the third season of "Qi Pa Shuo", Chen Ming also tried this approach. The current debate topic was "My wife's salary is three times mine, should I Should I be with her?" Chen Ming came up, showed a few Chinese and English papers, and made a brief summary. Before the summary was finished, Ma Dong couldn't sit still, "We don't do this, let's debate... "The implication is obvious. When arguing, you should not use textual research and use academics as a weapon. Chen Ming believed that Ma Dong meant that academic rigor should not be brought into the program. "I was a little confused at the time. Well, it seems that this can't be done in a too rigorous way. It still has to be funny, but how to make it funny?"

But this confusion did not last long, for a very important reason Simple, Chen Ming doesn't care about winning or losing in the show. He emphasized that the only reason he cared was because if he lost, it would hurt his teammates. For him, winning or losing never mattered. For a debater, it doesn't sound sincere to not care about winning or losing. Chen Ming corrected that in formal debates, he still cares about winning or losing, but "Qi Pa Shuo" is indeed a program. He only cares about whether his arguments are wonderful every time he stands up. Self-recognition of excellence is the only criterion that controls his mood.

It is really difficult to have this mentality for ten years. Zhou Xuanyi is Chen Ming’s philosophy teacher at the same school and the senior who brought him into the world of debate. Zhou Xuanyi only came to "Qi Pa Shuo" for one season. He felt that he was not very adaptable, so he quit. English teacher Ai Li has been ridiculed, and this season also Never come again. To be precise, Yan Rujing continued to participate in the competition because she longed for the championship. Only Chen Ming continued to participate in the fifth season, not out of his desire for the championship or the popularity of the audience.

He responded quickly and explained that his underlying logic was relatively self-consistent. "This bottom layer has been relatively complete, which is the recognition of modernity. As long as what I convey is rational, modern, and conforms to some basic characteristics of modernity, I will feel confident and the arguments will fall on my own. From the bottom of my heart. When I bowed and you still didn’t vote, I feel sorry for you. You may have lost an opportunity to enjoy a very interesting point of view, but if you all voted for me, I would like to express my gratitude. We are in the same boat.”

He summed up the process as “high mountains and flowing water.”

Since we are people of the same ideals, we should accept the mutual appreciation of mountains and rivers. But this kind of emotion only occurs at the moment of victory, and then he will immediately ask himself to climb again. "It's easy to stop after winning." When talking about the championship again, Chen Mingcai talked about his "fear" of honor. "When you win this title, it is easy to stop, and you will only move forward when you lose. If you think about every championship, you will find this problem. Even if you say in your heart not to stop, changes in the external environment and all The change in the direction of public opinion cannot be controlled by your own resistance. Sometimes people are not as strong as they think. At the end of this season, I thought that if 49 to 51, I was only one vote short, then for me, It’s a perfect ending.”

On the night of the final broadcast of this season, Yan Rujing wrote a long article and posted it after the show ended, but Chen Ming’s Weibo did not post any text that night. . He explained that he was recording a show and it was impossible to secretly post on Weibo while listening to others on stage. It wasn’t until the next night that he solemnly posted a long post about the matter. It can't be said that this is an escape, but at least he really doesn't want to face the praise and honor immediately at the height of the popularity.

Chen Ming’s long post on Weibo

“Achieving perfection in anything is art. On the entire ‘Weird Planet’, no matter what situation I encounter, I have persisted in the habit of rational expression for a long enough time, which is enough to prove my weirdness. In that "weird planet", among a group of weirdos, I am always positive and unique."

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His self-climbing is not over yet. After winning the championship, he still refused the invitation from his debating friends to join the "Speak Well" team. Chen Ming felt that he did not have a complete system theory for teaching people to speak, even though he taught "improvisational speaking" at Wuhan University. Expression" course.

This choice is in line with his steady character. Chen Ming once showed on the show that the only evidence that he is not a boring person is that he had long hair, played motorcycles, and formed a band when he was a freshman.

Chen Ming is not a cheater on the show, but outside of debates, he is a real cheater.

After "Qi Pa Shuo" ended, he participated in a program called "It doesn't matter if you don't do well in the exam". He was mainly responsible for being a flying guest in the four episodes of the program, explaining the questions after the children and their fathers answered the questions. More knowledge behind it. The title of the program is quite interesting, but in Chen Ming’s own growth experience, he really never experienced any time when he failed in the exam. He said in one breath that he was the squad leader for three years in elementary school and junior high school, and the secretary of the Youth League branch for three years in high school. He passed the exam successfully. Entered Wuhan University, continued his graduate studies, studied for a Ph.D., and stayed in school to become a teacher.

The only two things that can be called rebellious are one of them being that I loved reading "Encyclopedia" when I was a child (this is called rebellious and it is really "scornful"...). Chen Ming "forcibly" explained that when he was a child, the "Encyclopedia" was just a miscellaneous book. But the reason why I read "Encyclopedia" instead of novels is because "I prefer this reading method with a higher density of knowledge, so that my time is spent more meaningfully."

Another period of rebellion was a brief moment of arrogance during his freshman year, which was quickly abandoned by himself.

The meaning of debate to him is to enhance his thinking in the life of a top student. Teacher Chen Ming straightened his body and said, "The impact of debate on me is three things. First, I no longer blindly follow any firm words. Second, I developed the habit of absorbing knowledge quickly and efficiently. Third, I enjoyed the friendship of my debating friends. Love and unity."

It is too lacking in legend. Chen Ming nodded and admitted: "Debating is my paradise, and it is indeed not the main battlefield."

He has given speeches, been the host of other programs, and even wrote his identity as the host in his Weibo introduction , before the interview started, he already had the consciousness of "waiting for the makeup teacher to come" before starting the interview. Out of his interest in education, Chen Ming believes that being a teacher is the main battlefield of his life. He is very happy to participate in educational variety shows such as "It's Okay If You Don't Do Well" and is also very interested in this topic.

It is obvious that Chen Ming attaches great importance to family. The only time he showed slight anger in "Qi Pa Shuo" was because of the cyber violence against his daughter by the keyboard warrior. Regarding his daughter's education, he is very confident that with his ability to express himself, he will not get angry when accompanying his children to do homework. "Those parents who suffer from heart problems have bad hearts, right? They should be treated if they are sick. Don't blame the children."

Chen Ming's family

and Nowadays, unlike most parents who expect their sons to be successful and their daughters to be successful, Chen Ming does not mind that his two daughters will be mediocre people in the future, even though he and his wife are both university teachers. He even hopes that his daughters can choose to be mediocre people. I know very well what kind of hard work and diligence you have to endure if you choose to climb in life.

"Once you climb this road, there is no turning back. When you see a mountain top, you actually want to stand on that mountain top, but will you be happy in this process? No. You Once you stand up, you will see the next mountain. If you can't stand up, why hasn't the pain arrived yet? In fact, it is easy to get farther and farther away from happiness. Enjoy every ordinary moment, enjoy even ordinary family love, a basket of food and a cup of drink.

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