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"God knows who will go to hell, so why should he be born and suffer forever?" < = What's the answer? No one answered. It's just that there are many gorgeous modifiers in the text.

I don't see where this answer is more convincing than other answers.

It's like saying a lot of things that I'm embarrassed to say that I don't understand at all. Why does the questioner choose an answer that can't be answered after a big circle?

Instead of judging God directly with the arguments of different respondents? Or for this Millennium problem?

I don't have the confidence to bet on myself? That's what it is

Why not vote?

God has the ability to know what will happen in the future! ! ! ! But God gave people free will.

Let people have the freedom to choose. The dead end is their choice! God will not interfere with people's decisions! ! ! God created man .. but God is freer than man's choice ~! Supplement: That's because there is a God who created human beings and made them false ... God created human beings with Lebanon ... People should believe him ... but because he is guilty ... Even though he heard the Bible once, he didn't believe in God ... After listening to it, he really wanted to. ! What happens to people in the end? People who don't believe in god will go to hell ... people who believe can go to heaven ~ ~! I don't know how many years it will take ~! Bible says: I don't know. You don't know. Even god doesn't know when ~! What the Bible says in the end ~! 2007-02-02 18:44:54 Supplement: It is suggested that the questioner choose the person who has the best answer ... Ou Bo. I think his answer is very good.

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God knows who is going to hell. Why did he create him to suffer forever? This question is extremely difficult to answer and worth thinking about. I don't have a satisfactory answer until today, but I can share my thoughts. 1) The three concepts of omniscience, omniscience and omnipotence are contradictory if compared separately. For example, if God is all-good, and God belongs to impossible crime, since it is impossible, it is omnipotent. And your question just points out where the three concepts of omniscience, omniscience and omnipotence are opposite to each other. But I personally think it is not appropriate to compare the attributes of God alone. 2) I believe that people can't know God by themselves, and people's understanding of God depends on God's revelation. The world is like several blind people touching an elephant. Some touch ivory, some touch elephant trunk, and some touch elephant feet. Their object experiences are different and contradictory, but an elephant is an elephant, and the contradiction lies not in the elephant itself, but in the blind. If the blind want to know the true shape of the elephant, they can only accept it with "faith". 3) On the other hand, God knows who is going to hell, so why create him to suffer forever? There seems to be no clear answer to this question in the Bible. I dare not answer on behalf of God, but I am sure that God wants the world to be saved and does not want any soul to be isolated from him forever.

This is the basic doctrine of Christianity.

Calvin and Martin Luther were like this.

Look at the following books & gt From the summary, you can know that

Therefore, before people began to pay attention to the importance of religious freedom in the middle of the nineteenth century.

Those who oppose fate will be killed in minutes! Because redemption is predestined.

People are powerless to change: murder and arson have become a matter of course-especially for pagans: hence imperialism.

The slave trade is not unacceptable.

Killing the old religion is God's delight, and how much evil ......................... has done. > "God has chosen some people through his predestination, so that they can have hope of life, while others will be sentenced to death forever. No pious person can completely deny this matter. But this question has caused a lot of cross-examination, especially those who think that foreknowledge is the cause of fate. We hold that fatalism and foreknowledge belong to God; But it is absurd to say that the latter depends on the former. When we say that God has foresight, that is to say, everything has been in front of God from the beginning, and it will always be like this. Therefore, in the wisdom of God, there is no difference between the future and the past, and everything belongs to the present; Moreover, the present situation is that he not only has conceptual perception, as if we take what we remember in our hearts as the present things, and everything seems to be actually placed in front of him for him to truly see. This prophecy includes the whole universe and everything that has been created. The so-called reservation is God's eternal will, that is, God has decided what he wants to achieve for everyone in the world. Because not all human beings have created the same life; For some people, eternal life is destiny takes a hand, but for others, it is an eternal sin. Since everyone is created for one purpose or another, we say that he is destined to live or die. This fact is confirmed not only by one person, but also by all descendants of Abraham, which clearly shows that the future of every nation is decided by God. " Moses often exhorted the same words over and over again: "Look, the heavens and the heavens in the sky, the earth and everything on it belong to the Lord your God. But the Lord was pleased with your fathers and loved them, and chose their descendants from all the peoples. "In another place, he ordered people to be holy, because God chose them as a special nation. In another place, he said that God's love is their guarantee. Letter? They all said, "He chose it for us? Karma is the glory of Jacob he loves. "For all the gifts given by God, they are honored by God's free love, not only because they feel that these gifts are not obtained because of their achievements, but also because they are convinced that even their sacred ancestor Jacob has no such great virtue to gain the right to bear such great honor for himself and his descendants. In order to get rid of all pride more effectively, Moses accused them of being "stiff-necked people" and not worthy of God's care at all. ? Prophets often blame the Jews and mention this choice that they don't welcome because they have shamefully abandoned it. So what? I would like to ask those who want to attribute God's choice to people: When they see that a certain nation is more pleasing to God than others, and when they hear that God's special grace to a weak, humble, even rebellious and stubborn nation is given in vain, do they have to quarrel with God because God is determined to show his kindness? Their noise can not only hinder God's action, but also point out that the scourge is like throwing stones into the air and cannot damage or affect his justice. The result is to shoot your own head. " but

This goes against Martin Luther's original intention: cftfc/churchhistory/big5/history/12 "? What about human free will? Do people have freedom? Luther wrote a very intense booklet on this issue, which is the aforementioned "On the Will to Be a Slave". Luther thinks this little book is the most important of all his works. In this pamphlet, Luther said bluntly that free will is a fact that sinners fantasize and fabricate themselves. After committing a crime, people have no ability to distinguish good from evil at all. How can they choose well? After a person commits a crime, his will becomes a slave to sin, and he has no ability not to commit a crime. But don't people have the ability to do this or that? Yes, but this choice is also within the scope of not committing crimes; In other words, a person can choose to commit a crime in this way or that way. No matter how he chooses, the result is the same, and it is a crime. Even when people are faced with good and evil, they can choose from them. Even if he did choose goodness, he immediately found himself incapable of realizing the goodness he chose. Such a choice is illusory. If people want to have real freedom, they must be released by Christ. Only when they are released by Christ can they have real freedom. In fact, the goal of redemption is to let people get this real freedom. After being saved, man became his own king for the first time. He is independent and is no longer bound by any rules. He is free to come to God and see China. But this completely free man is willing to be the servant of all, just like Christ. He is free, but his freedom is for others. He used to be locked in egoism, but now he is released from egoism and naturally reveals his responsibility and love to others. This is the meaning of true freedom. Ironically,

Their thoughts permeate each other: Is Christianity really "big"?

Quote the book The Mystery of Life after Death about the understanding of more than 60 people who have experienced life after death: People have made a blueprint for their lives before they are born, and we have also made the meaning of life for ourselves. The purpose is that through reincarnation, we will have the opportunity to learn unconditional love from treating others, loving others, enduring and forgiving, so as to gain the growth of our own or others' spiritual character and make us enter a higher resonance level after death, and heaven is the place with the highest resonance level. Creators don't force people to go to heaven, hell or anywhere else. In the end, it is man's decision, but in the end, every road leads to the creator.

Reference: Book: The Mystery of Life after Death

In fact, you know the all-good, all-powerful God, because the teachings of Christian cults are neither true nor evil. For example, Taiwan Province artist Xu Weilun (who doesn't believe in Christ) was smashed into brains in a car accident before her death, and will be burned in the hell of a Christian cult forever after her death. If you haven't exterminated humanity, you should leave the cult at once and don't scare us like a holy warrior of GOGO. We will never understand that life is only a few decades, and no matter how this person commits crimes, these crimes will always be "limited." So, what is the significance of God's establishment of hell? In my opinion, the establishment of hell not only subverts all "love", but also embodies the significance of punishment and education, on the contrary, it embodies the abnormal nature of the devil God. In fact, all punishments, such as imprisonment and death penalty, are only for the purpose of punishment, education and justice. Beyond these, it is the punishment of deterioration, because this is often the selfish revenge of the ruler. Therefore, the establishment of hell, in addition to God, the devil in order to satisfy his revenge and intimidate the world, there are other things? Christians like to call God a loving father and a loving mother, which is really a great fallacy in the world. Excuse me, which loving father and loving mother in the world will punish their son forever? If he is really a loving father and mother, he should give his son a chance to change. There is no chance to change the hell set by God. Religion is a distortion of human nature, especially Christianity. What is disgusting about Christianity is the doctrine that the fire of hell never dies. People who believe in the doctrine of eternal fire in hell are psychopaths! Moreover, the Christian hell is endless and extremely abnormal. This point was strongly criticized by Russell, a modern philosopher, and many free thinkers. Every time I see some fundamentalist Christians defending the existence of eternal fire in hell, I am deeply touched by its ugly side. In fact, it is not surprising that Christian faith often makes people lose their humanity. Look at the atrocities such as the medieval Catholic inquisition and the Protestant theologian Calvin burning Servit for two hours, and you will know that monotheism is a dangerous belief. It is easy to lose people's conscience, even the deeper the belief, the more dehumanized the thought and behavior! Zhang Lisheng, a fundamentalist priest, is an obvious example. He shamefully attacked evolution and atheism in many books. We can tolerate his ignorance, but Zhang Lisheng openly defended the existence of eternal fire in hell in his systematic theology-eschatology, arguing that hell is a concrete fire. Based on moral conscience, we have to condemn it! Even in the Christian world, such as modern liberal theology, the concept of hell has been diluted to a symbolic name, and many Christians I met are unwilling to admit the permanence and concreteness of hell. These phenomena can be regarded as traces of Christian conscience, which Zhang Lisheng strongly opposes, because fundamentalists such as Zhang Lisheng advocate the existence of the most extreme and cruel hell. Let's see how Zhang Lisheng defends the cruelest hell in this book. He said: "The evil trend will lead to evil, so it will become an" eternal evil ". Therefore, God should, at the request of justice, use constant punishment to recover constant sin. If human beings continue to commit crimes, justice cannot stop punishing them. " (3)

He even quoted Calvin as saying that "God has the best reason to punish eternal sin forever and ever". I really feel ridiculous after reading it. No matter whether "sin" comes from people or not, people's so-called "sin" is limited anyway. It only begins with the birth of a person and ends with the death of a person. After death, consciousness also ends. How can there be (continuous sin)? Only people like Calvin and Zhang Lisheng can think of punishing limited "sin" with infinite eternal fire. Zhang Lisheng also said: "We are rebelling against an infinite god. Disaster is an infinite evil, so we are punished infinitely." (4) This kind of god, quite like Empress Dowager Cixi, has infinite power.

Just like her famous saying, "whoever wants to make me unhappy for a while, I will make him unhappy for life!" " The severity of punishment depends on the seriousness of the offender's behavior. Light and heavy, hell to pay. Do those who commit unlimited punishment have a reason? If so, God is equal to the autocratic rule of the emperor. Christians usually think that hell is used to compensate evil, and they think that the price of evil is death. We can't imagine any sin that is serious enough to be punished forever, not to mention that human sin originated from God. Even before God created the world, he predicted that people would commit crimes. God consciously created some sinners to punish them. I once talked to a Christian, and I asked him, "If you had a choice, would you rather have God or no God? He replied, I would rather God exists, because I hope to live forever. I asked him again, "Are your family believers? He replied that his family were not believers and even stopped Thaksin. I asked him again, "Would you rather have God than accept countless people suffering in hell, including your family?" He should answer that these people deserve it! Christian doctrine led to the extinction of human conscience, reaching an alarming level. It seems that Christians who advocate the doctrine of hell should be punished by eternal fire! Attachment: Christian threat book: Christianity in fuyin.lingliang/200204/020423ttdy has poisoned mankind for a long time, and the world should wake up! 2007-02-06-21:43: 07 Supplement: Pig farmers know that their piglets will be killed by him, but they still keep them. The tyrant Yahweh is as cruel to people as his master is to livestock, just to satisfy his abnormal desires.

God has the ability to know what will happen in the future! ! ! ! But God gave people free will.

Let people have the freedom to choose. The dead end is their choice! God will not interfere with people's decisions! Didn't God predestine you to be a good person or a bad person from the beginning?

It is not doomed from the beginning how your life will go! It seems that you have strength, but you don't have to take everything too hard! The ancestors of mankind committed crimes. So he will die! But God is in love.

Let future generations have the hope of eternal life! Why did human ancestors commit crimes? Why do people have eternal hope? Welcome to chat with me!

This is the whole contradiction of Christianity. You should know.

God is just a god chosen by some ancient Hebrew priests.

The original intention was just to scare our own people and cater to the needs of the society at that time, because Israel often fought with neighboring tribes at that time.

So he said that God is an army god.

It is the "Lord of hosts", so

In these works of priests who act as novelists, God

He became a cruel and ferocious man.

God who favors Israel

Because this is in line with the image of "Israel's military god." But then,

This "national god" is influenced by international conferences.

Unexpectedly, he became the savior of Europe. At this time as the god of the whole world.

You must become a deformed image.

To satisfy the tastes of the public. therefore

Those modern theologians

The missionary once again acted as a screenwriter.

Turn the original cruelty into cruelty

Put aside all the bad images of killing innocent people

And impose the word benevolence and righteousness on the Lord God.

It is also for the convenience of ruling the people and strengthening the sacred position of leaves.

He also founded his own theological theory of "original sin" and "trinity". however

Because the Old Testament has been around for thousands of years.

It is impossible to usurp a large number of cruel and heartless plots of the Lord God in the Bible, so Du Du chose the New Testament.

Add kind words to the classics.

God has also become gentle.

It should conform to the image that God loves the world. So now Christianity is full of cruel and loving images.

It's hard to defend yourself.

And those who are committed to conservation education will also talk nonsense on this page.

Trying to "protect the short" for the cruelty of the Lord.

But the Bible records God's actions in black and white.

You don't have to admit it or not. As for your quotation from Christians, "love is given by God."

Sin is self-inflicted

It's none of God's business. "

"Everything in the world was created by the Lord", which is obviously contrary to the Old Testament. If everything in the world was really created by the Lord,

Kindness and cruelty are the masterpieces of God.

Is there "love is given by God"

Sin is man-made! In fact, Buddhist classics also have the same statement.

In the story of Daryun Benson,

Bodhisattva questioned the creator's so-called sacred justice: anyone with eyes can see disease.

Why didn't Brahma mold the man he created? If his magic is infinite,

Why does he seldom extend a hand of blessing? Why do all the people he created suffer? Why doesn't he give them happiness? Why cheat?

Lies and ignorance are so prevalent? Why is hypocrisy so arrogant? Truth and justice have just fallen? It is unfair to criticize Brahma (Brahma refers to the Hindu creator).

Created a world that accommodates mistakes. In the Bodhi Bensheng Sutra,

Bodhisattva refuted the theory that everything was created by the Almighty.

And pointed out: "If there is an Almighty Lord,

Dominate the joys, sorrows, good and evil of all sentient beings.

This god is full of sin. People can only do things according to their own will. "Thus, there are many contradictions and irrationalities in Christianity.

But there are still many people to believe! !

Reference: humanum.arts.cu.edu/~shp/religion/99-03buddha.txt