In recent days, his blog has posted a dialogue with Leo Oufan Lee ten years ago, "Reflections on Pathological Enlightenment", which is about the May 4th Movement. Reflecting on the May 4th Movement has always been the "responsibility" of some thinkers. The dialogue between them is still of great ideological value in similar topics, and some new ideas are put forward, which deserve attention. When Liu Zaifu talked about "the May 4th Movement proposed to oppose aristocratic literature and advocate civilian literature", he thought that "the aesthetic principles at that time had undergone fundamental changes, that is, the aesthetic principles of opposing elegance and respecting vulgarity." Taking Lu Xun's dislike of Mei Lanfang as an example, he said that Lu Xun's dislike of Mei Lanfang at that time was that he thought Mei Lanfang was elegant, but the public could not understand it. In fact, Lu Xun's contempt for Mei Lanfang probably lies not in "elegance", but in his contempt for Mei Lanfang's birth. Lu Xun is a "gentleman" after all. He has been in Beijing for many years and can't help but know the ins and outs of Mei Lanfang. Mei Lanfang was born as a "tangzi", that is, a troupe of Dashilan in Qianmen, Beijing in the old days. She not only studied drama and served people, but also acted as a "duck", with a very humble position. For this period of his life experience, in all the biographical materials and stories about him later, only the suffering of learning drama in childhood was mentioned, avoiding the old rules in the troupe. Almost all handsome teenagers have to be "ducks" for bosses and rich audiences. Mei Lanfang is a perfect artist in New China, and her beautiful aura cannot be flawed. Lu Xun sees things through the aura. Mei Lanfang was praised by the rich during her stay in Beijing. Can Lu Xun's eyes and preferences be respected and liked? Lu Xun doesn't like Peking Opera, not entirely because he doesn't like Mei Lanfang. Do you think, with his ideas, a talented person and a beautiful woman on the stage of Beijing opera, will he be interested? Later, I came to Shanghai and fell in love with movies, especially foreign movies, because movies were the most advanced form of entertainment at that time, rich in content, and a reflection of the living real world, not as old-fashioned as the Peking Opera stage.