Argument on whether a hero is desirable by success or failure! (the 6th International Debate Competition)

Wu Tian (a positive debate): There are heroes of success or failure in ancient times. Li Bai said in a poem, "The king of Qin swept the six rivers, and the tiger was mighty", but Zhan He, a country in the Eastern Zhou Dynasty, said, "Being brave is a true man,

don't judge heroes by success or failure." It can be seen that the hero theory of success or failure has been different since ancient times. However, the topic of the times should have the significance of the times. Today, it is not a method or a standard to talk about heroes by success or failure, but as a saying, a value exists in our times.

firstly, the view that heroes are judged by success or failure has its own merits. Although the ancients argued endlessly about it, the reason why it has been argued endlessly for thousands of years shows that it < P > has its merits from one side. We look at this sentence today, not from such a simple point of view, but with a pragmatic attitude of taking its essence and discarding its dross, so as to adapt it to the needs of the times.

second, the value of heroes based on success or failure, its desirability lies in linking success with heroes. A hero is not a simple person, nor a hero badge, nor a cold tombstone. What it represents is a symbol of spirit, a national flag and an example for the people.

thirdly, the desirability of a hero based on success or failure also lies in its wide practical significance. Because as a value, it encourages the whole society to learn from heroes and pursue success.

Jiang Ge (Argument against the other side): The ancients also said that "the name is irregular and the words are not smooth". Only by clearly defining the concept can we have a meaningful debate. According to the authoritative Modern Chinese Dictionary

, success or failure is relative to specific goals. A hero refers to a person who can arouse the lofty feelings of others with his outstanding talents and qualities. The so-called hero by success or failure means that success is a hero, and failure is not a hero. We think this view is not desirable for two reasons. First, it is impossible to talk about a plump and vivid hero with a comprehensive and rigid success or failure, so this view is wrong in theory. Whether a hero with outstanding talent can achieve external success depends on objective factors such as weather, geographical location, and human harmony. Second, from the point of view of success or failure, the meaning of utilitarianism is exaggerated unilaterally. As a result, what will this utilitarian world look like? It's really unimaginable.

Zheng zihao (two arguments): let me first point out two mistakes made by the other students. First, logically, "desirable" means desirable, but it is not the same as copying, and "undesirable" means not desirable at all. The other party must demonstrate this sentence, which is not worth learning and accepting at any angle or level. Second, the other party regards success or failure as a concrete method and applies it to the practice of real life, but please don't forget that what we are going to do today is a value judgment, not a fact judgment.

The reason why we advocate judging heroes by success or failure is based on this value, which has its desirability at three levels: individual, country and even society. First, at the personal level, the desirability of this value < P > is that he advocates success and encourages people to pursue success. Second, the desirability of this value is also reflected in its promotion of national development, from individuals to countries, all pursuing the same truth of advocating success.

The desirability of this value on the social level lies in the social values that can shape and create success and encourage the pursuit of success, and become a value orientation of social trends and a direction of social behavior

.

Yuan Ding (opposing two debates): From the first debate to the second debate, the other side told us that their view today is only to prove that it is advisable to talk about heroes by success or failure.

in fact, the biggest disadvantage of heroes in terms of success or failure is that they can't talk about heroes.

First, from the perspective of success, if success is a hero, we can draw the conclusion that Hitler was a hero at the beginning of World War II. He founded the Third Reich and swept Europe, but it's hard to say

Do you agree that he is a hero?

Secondly, from the aspect of failure, if you fail, you are not heroes, then neither Jing Ke nor Bruno are heroes, but are they really not heroes?

thirdly, considering success or failure comprehensively, success or failure, as a relative concept, always exists in a certain competition, and the success of one competitor means the failure of the other. So we can draw the third conclusion,

The result of any competition is a hero and a bear. According to the other students' point of view, judging heroes by success or failure, the result can only be that fake heroes are popular and real heroes are falling.

Fu Xin (Three Arguments for the Positive): I will expound the desirability of the value of judging heroes by success or failure from three aspects.

First, when we look at the sentence of success or failure as a hero from the perspective of values, the meaning of success is expanded. Because at this time, success also includes the value orientation of pursuing success, which is not only the realization of personal goals in Jane Eyre, but also the positive significance to society.

Second, advocating the value of heroes based on success or failure can break the old and create new ones, and evaluate people with a more fair and objective concept. On heroes by success or failure, this kind of values advocates a more objective and fair concept. We say that heroes are not afraid of low birth. What do you look at without looking at birth? Look at success and the value orientation of pursuing success. From the traditional point of view, some people will never be heroes, but as long as they pursue success, they are the heroes that our times need.

Thirdly, the value of success or failure as a hero is desirable because of its special significance to losers. Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong said: "Our society should give losers a chance to succeed again."

I'd like to ask everyone here, who hasn't tasted failure? But because of this, do we give up pursuing success? The value of pursuing success makes us not spit on the loser, but encourage him to continue to pursue success.

Yu Lei (three arguments against each other): First, let's look at the logic of the other classmate. The other classmate said that as long as they cite a little bit of merits today, they are desirable. However, if we cite more demerits, it is not undesirable. Is this called "only state officials can set fires, but people are not allowed to light lamps"? If the other student must ask us today, is there any merit? I said yes, where is it? < P >? This can make everyone realize how harmful it is to talk about heroes by success or failure.

Let's take a look at the other students' argument. There are two arguments from the other students. First of all, if you don't succeed, you won't succeed, so you should talk about heroes by success or failure. Let's think about it. If the hero

doesn't eat, the hero will become a ghost hero. Then can we judge heroes by their appetite and see who eats more? The other classmate also told everyone to pursue success and encourage success. But

yes, does encouraging and pursuing success mean judging heroes by success or failure?

actually, all the problems of the other students today are that they are not clear about the examination questions. What is a hero by success or failure? That is to say, a person is a hero if he succeeds, but he is not a hero if he fails. Then

let's think about it. Many heroes have the shadow of success, and we don't object to it. However, which ordinary people have no success? If both heroes and ordinary people are successful, how can a hero be judged only by success?

Confrontation

Positive: The opponent's debater only regards the hero of success or failure as a standard to measure the hero, but fails to see that what he represents is a kind of value.

Counterparty: We have made it very clear that we encourage success, but it also depends on how people

pursue success. It is just success or failure that leads to the pursuit of success by hook or by crook.

Zheng zihao: may I ask the other debater whether heroes encourage success by judging success or failure?

Zhou Xuanyi: Debate friend, we should encourage success today, but we can't encourage success by hook or by crook. So we can't encourage heroes to be judged by success or failure. I want to ask you a logical question.

Is success a sufficient condition or a necessary condition for a hero?

Fu Xin: Why do the other debaters just see the success by hook or by crook? Can't we take the essence and discard the dross when we advocate?

Yu Lei: It's not that we want to see success by hook or by crook. The question is how many people will succeed by hook or by crook under the guise of success or failure heroes? Ask the other students to answer our four questions.

Wu Tian: Does the opponent argue that economic development is not desirable because today's economic development may bring environmental damage? Don't we have other values to restrict today?

Yuan Ding: The other student's analogy is improper. How do you know that the hero of success or failure is economic development rather than environmental damage? The other classmate still hasn't answered our four questions. Let me ask a specific question

. "Kuafu's pursuit of the sun" and "Jingwei's reclamation" failed. Are Kuafu and Jingwei heroes?

Chen Xiaohuan: Actually, it is the other debater who got the wrong answer today. They only regard the hero of success or failure as a measure of hero, but they don't see that what he represents is a kind of value. Excuse me, what is not desirable about drum

success?

Jiang Ge: We have made it very clear that we encourage success, but it also depends on how people pursue success. It is just success or failure that leads to the pursuit of success by hook or by crook. You didn't answer just now. Is success a sufficient condition or a necessary condition to be a hero? Let me ask you another negative question. Is failure a sufficient condition or a necessary condition for being a non-hero?

Zheng zihao: our society does not have a single value, but can restrict each other among the values that coexist in multiple ways. Our society also advocates morality, and we also pursue truth, goodness and beauty.

Yu Lei: It turns out that the other classmate said that judging heroes by success or failure is part of a correct value. Heroes are desirable, but let's think about it. Tires are still a part of the car, and it is < P > available when sitting in the car. Is it desirable or not for everyone to sit on tires?

Fu Xin: The other debater said it well, and you did see the negative effects. But what we are talking about now is the values of a society. Why can't we take its essence and discard its dross when we advocate social values? Will our society advocate utilitarianism?

Yuan Ding: According to the other classmate, today's debate should be changed to "It is advisable to talk about heroes in the essence of success or failure". Please don't confuse the topic. The other student didn't answer the full and necessary item

once. Please tell me whether it is a sufficient condition or a necessary condition. Does it matter?

Wu Tian: We don't need to see whether this is a sufficient condition or a necessary condition. Because what we see today is a hero who talks about success or failure and a value orientation of pursuing success, why can't this value orientation be taken < P >? Ask the opponent's debater to answer directly.

Jiang ge: I think we have answered this question clearly in the second, third and fourth debates, including me. You don't explain the logical question, but ask a specific question. Yue Fei's ideal is to go straight to Huanglong and

have a drink with the gentlemen. This ideal finally failed. Why is he still a great hero in history?

Summary

■ Positive: It is desirable to talk about the value of heroes by success or failure, because first of all, it conforms to human nature. People are animals that pursue meaning, and success is one of the best interpretations of this meaning.

■ Counterparty: A hero is also a man of flesh and blood. He has both outstanding points and mortal weaknesses, and his success or failure is only the result of a moment.

Zhou Xuanyi (four opposing arguments): Today we want to talk about logic at the beginning. How can the other debater say that it is only a logical question to talk about heroes by success or failure? We talked about fact judgment, and the other classmate said, how can success or failure be a fact judgment? Then I really don't know what we should talk about today.

Indeed, we understand that what the other debater wants to tell you today is that we should see the true nature of heroes in success, which we never deny. But when we really theorize about heroes, what do we see? Please think about it, why do we say Guan Yu is a hero when we succeed and when we fail? This just shows that the true colors of heroes exist beyond success or failure.

today, we have made it very clear in our debate. A hero is also a man of flesh and blood. He has both Excellence and mortal weakness, and success or failure is only the result of a moment. There are many

factors that determine the result of success or failure, both the subjective efforts of the hero himself and the objective factors such as weather, geographical location, human harmony and so on, which are independent of human will. How can there be room for the East China Sea Dragon in a square inch, and how can we judge the earth-shattering heroism?

However, when success or failure becomes the yardstick for judging heroes, the lofty spiritual quality of heroes will be forgotten by us. When success becomes the standard to measure heroes, the means become irrelevant. Yu

is that meanness becomes the passport of the despicable, while nobility can only be used as the epitaph of the noble. For today's society, where utilitarian rationality is expanding and humanistic spirit is declining, it's obvious whether such a heroic view of quick success and unscrupulous means will purify our morality or annihilate our conscience.

Chen Xiaohuan (four arguments for the positive side): As the saying goes, "heroes have been born as teenagers since ancient times" and "newborn calves are not afraid of tigers". Why? Because everyone embodies a value orientation of pursuing success, today, however, to

Fang Debate Friends, they only look at facts, not value, and what they want to demonstrate is an inadvisability, that is to say, it is not advisable to talk about heroes by success or failure from the perspective of facts or value, but

Today, the other Debate Friends not only fail to demonstrate the inadvisability, but also once fell into a quagmire of fact judgment.

Is it correct to judge a hero by success or failure as a fact and is it desirable to judge him as a value? They are two different things at all. Even from the perspective of fact judgment, it is not < P > undesirable to judge heroes by success or failure.

Today, we think it is desirable to talk about the value of heroes by success or failure, because firstly, it conforms to human nature. People are animals that pursue meaning, and success is one of the best interpretations of this meaning. No one

does not want to break through, and no one does not want to succeed, because it is a heartfelt yearning.

Secondly, judging heroes by success or failure can promote social progress. The lessons of failure are valuable, but progress must be achieved through success. A society is never built by a group of losers, and the progress of society is accumulated by the success of countless people.

Thirdly, judging heroes by success or failure is conducive to the unity of personal value and social value. Personal value is divorced from social value, and it may become self-interest, while social value without personal value is

just a name in vain.

The new era has given new meaning to success or failure, and the new century has given a new mission. Only the hero who pursues success is the strong one of the times, and only the hero who despises failure is a citizen < p